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It is very confusing when perusing the Tools menu and looking at flags to see the reason as

  • not constructive
  • off topic
  • off topic; belongs on Super User
  • not a real question

The other box should not be used to input close reasons. Especially since I cannot select

  • not constructive
  • off topic
  • off topic; belongs on Super User
  • not a real question

as a flag reason. So what is one to do? If you put that same text into the other box as part of your concur flag, then you may get a message back from the Moderators like this:

"declined - You don't need to repeat Community flags. We see them."

The flagging reason does not show it as a close reason since the Close Question box may have no close votes for that question or the close reason does not match the flag reason.

The entire process is very confusing.

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These close reasons are flags from users which don't yet have the right to vote. They get the same dialog as a flag dialog. Custom flag reasons don't show up in the 10k list. –  Paŭlo Ebermann Sep 15 '11 at 13:16
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@Paulo: Sounds like we have a disconnect then! –  staticx Sep 15 '11 at 13:18

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I think this is more of a behavioral problem, mostly mine. I didn't think it was necessary to bump the Community user's flags to the top of the mod queue, since those are almost never urgent. I should have realized that non-moderators can't see whose flag they're concurring with, so there's no way I could reasonably expect you to know those were Community flags. Keep flagging as you were, and I'll try to stop being a bonehead. Sorry about dropping your flag weight.


No actual change to the system should really be necessary, but it might be helpful (mostly to diamond moderators) if either the Community user were revealed as the flagger to 10K users in the flagging panel, or if Community flags didn't show up there at all.

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Thought the request was about people who have voted to close also flagging as the same reason they just close voted –  random Sep 15 '11 at 13:22
    
@random: The question is a little confusing, but I processed the flag yesterday so I remember it. He had copied the flag message from another flag in the /review panel and entered it as his own flag reason. Close reason text should be fine to enter in as "other" text in the flag reason. –  Bill the Lizard Sep 15 '11 at 13:26
    
community user has a fixed flag weight; marking helpful or declined will have no effect on community user –  Jeff Atwood Sep 15 '11 at 21:46
    
@Jeff: I marked the flag as declined to leave feedback for 0A0D, not for the Community user. –  Bill the Lizard Sep 15 '11 at 22:08
    
@bill sure, just pointing out that nobody needs to be worried about community user's flag weight since it can't change –  Jeff Atwood Sep 16 '11 at 0:59

"declined - You don't need to repeat Community flags. We see them."

This should never happen, I have flagged (other reason -> copied/pasted reason) & voted to close question A LOT OF times. Everytime they were marked as helpful.

Do not worry about it and just flag them

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Why did you need to flag with the same close reason? –  random Sep 15 '11 at 12:41
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@random: because it's closed faster and because there are these flags button(s) for purpose? –  genesis Sep 15 '11 at 12:42
    
@random: It's not the close reason though, that's the problem. –  staticx Sep 15 '11 at 12:42
    
@Mr.Disappointment: no. When I'm voting to close I flag it. –  genesis Sep 15 '11 at 12:53
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Are you re-flagging posts from the Community user, or from other members of the community? Because people piggy-backing off the Community flags to get an easy flag-weight boost is really unnecessary. They're virtually guaranteed to be valid flags, but they're almost never so urgent that we need to address them right now. –  Bill the Lizard Sep 15 '11 at 12:57
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@Bill: How do we know if it is a Community flag? Flags are anonymous to 10K users. –  staticx Sep 15 '11 at 13:08
    
@0A0D They have fixed messages, like "Low answer quality score" or "More than 20 comments posted in the past 3 days" –  Michael Mrozek Sep 15 '11 at 13:10
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@0A0D: Well now... that is an interesting point. I'll just stop declining those. Sorry about that. –  Bill the Lizard Sep 15 '11 at 13:12
    
@BilltheLizard: I have never flagged posts community flags - just "vandalism" few times when I was sure it IS vandalism –  genesis Sep 15 '11 at 13:12
    
@BilltheLizard: wow, you're declining them all? –  genesis Sep 15 '11 at 13:12
    
@Michael: Oh, well then that should be an answer to my question then and actually the fix should be to show Community or something so we know. –  staticx Sep 15 '11 at 13:13
    
@genesis-φ No, I declined two of them yesterday or the day before. –  Bill the Lizard Sep 15 '11 at 13:14
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@Bill: If only there were something you could do. :) –  razlebe Sep 15 '11 at 13:35

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