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The following question of mine has been closed:

Is JBoss just plain awful at reporting errors? Or is there another log file? Or is this just my fault?

I feel that it was unfairly closed! However, I will be the first to admit that the title wasn't the best and can kind of understand what casperOne meant when they said that the ultimate question wasn't clear - but give me a chance...? I put a considerable amount of time laying out the question and there clearly questions there that I wanted answers to:

  • From the title: Or is there another log file?
  • Are there any more files anywhere?!
  • Further near the bottom] Is this worth investigating?

And, OK, not a question but hopefully clear enough that I want some input / suggestions:

  • Any ideas / suggestions welcome!

Is there any way I can get this re-opened? And fair enough if a little re-wording would be required first...but give me a chance..? This problem has been driving me crazy for a few days and am running out of ideas!

Thanks, Ed

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tl;dr but I will say that starting a post with "Getting a little p*ssed off with JBoss" doesn't set a good tone for the rest of the post, and pushes it into the "not constructive" area. –  Wesley Murch Jan 10 '12 at 9:05
    
From the votes down...is my question that awful? Please some comments would be appreciated. Thanks. –  Ed . Jan 10 '12 at 9:05
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Closure on SO is not permanent. If you make it a proper question, it can reopened via votes. –  Bart Jan 10 '12 at 9:05
    
Not my DV, but read here: meta.stackoverflow.com/faq#vote-differences –  Wesley Murch Jan 10 '12 at 9:06
    
@Bart - thanks for point me to that - hadn't realised. –  Ed . Jan 10 '12 at 9:11
    
That's a lot of question to chew through. Are you certain that you can't pare it down further, or split it up into several smaller questions? –  Adam Davis Jan 10 '12 at 9:21

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Firstly, it's clear you have an issue somewhere, but:

Is JBoss just plain awful at reporting errors? Or is there another log file? Or is this just my fault?

Sets spidey-senses tingling for this line of the don't ask section in the faq FAQ:

it is a rant disguised as a question: “__ sucks, am I right?”

Then the question begins:

Getting a little p*ssed off with JBoss...

and later

There are no 'previous startup errors'...thanks JBoss...not really that helpful?

which pretty much nails it, I think.


I realise programming is sometimes frustrating and 90 ft stack traces so common to frameworks are about as clear as mud, but you can only do what experienced devs do - work through the problem until you find the answer(1). If you're stuck, you can ask on Stack Overflow, but remember to include all the relevant information. For example, what is EM.jar? What is the remote vs local configuration? I'd do away with the stack traces and simply report the relevant outcome - ClassNotFoundException. I'd also agree its not fully clear what you're trying to achieve; something that may be worth clarifying.

Times like these it's always worth linking to Jon Skeet's how to ask guidance. I wouldn't say you're that far off. If I were you I'd edit the question taking into account that guidance and flag it for re-opening. After all, question closure is not permanent and this is the point of it - to improve questions.

1) this may mean putting in a fair amount of research effort, either by searching or asking on Stack Overflow for any prerequisite questions. It depends on the problem.

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Thanks for the input and I do completely agree with most of your answer (when I wrote the question I think it'd be fair to say I was just a little frustrated with JBoss!)...as regards to the content/details of the question, I would hope something like what is the EM.war would be self explanatory. In addition, the ClassNotFoundException is potentially not the exception I am looking for since that's starting up without some configuration files that I assume are needed, but nevertheless - thanks again. Hopefully it'll get re-opened now that I have made some changes :) –  Ed . Jan 10 '12 at 9:30

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