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A few days ago, I stumbled onto a nice announcement: Vim ported to mobile devices. Since it was news at a time, I decided to post a question and give an answer right afterwards about it.

From what I understood,

Etiquette for answering your own question
Vim questions: SO or SU?

neither Vim related topics are offtopic on SO, nor is answering your own forbidden (from the FAQ, my understanding is that it is actually encouraged, as long as the answer contains useful information).

So why was the question closed offtopic, or at all for that matter?

The moderator who closed it isn't answering, so I'm asking here ...

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Can you provide a link to the question? –  Keith Thompson Jan 28 '12 at 0:33
I'm assuming this is the question? –  Yannis Jan 28 '12 at 0:34
@YannisRizos - Yup, sorry about that - forgot. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 0:49
Related: Limits for self-promotion in answers –  Pëkka Jan 28 '12 at 1:48
A lot of the comments are saying that this was self-promotion. @ldigas, are you associated with this product? –  Keith Thompson Jan 28 '12 at 3:05
@KeithThompson - (I've answered that below in the comments) Not in any way, apart from being a Vim user (but on Windows). I don't even own any of Apple's products. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 3:16
But what is interesting is that this was closed under the presumption of being offtopic, then we switched to it not being a question, now it's self promotion. I don't mind if someone has a different opinion, and says "I just didn't like it, so I voted for closing". But this is bs ... masking every possible reason in hope one will "pass" ... –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 3:18
... the problem with rules is that you have to stand by them even when you don't like it ... otherwise they're not rules, they're just someone's will ... –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 3:31
@ldigas You see switching rationales, I see myriad reasons it was a bad question. The advantage of community governance is that the community can weed out bad content without having to explain its actions to some higher authority. –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 10:26
@ldigas I sincerely don't get the sense that you're hoping to understand why your question was closed at this point. The community gave you indirect feedback about the quality of the question by closing and deleting it, and then plenty of direct feedback in this discussion. If you really don't see how your question differs from all the unclosed questions on SO and are looking for guidance, you need to make that clearer. If you're just seeking vindication, I don't think you're going to find much satisfaction here. –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 10:41
@blahdiblah - ah, so it was "It sucked, I voted for closing" reason. I have no quarrels with that. The only thing I mind is them being closed under a false reason of /see the list of all mentioned below/ when it is actually someone's dislikeness for it, the real reason. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 12:36
but from what I gather, the dislikeness is expressed by downvoting the question. For closing you must have justification. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 13:15

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That wasn't a real question.

There's nothing to indicate that anyone ever actually wanted to know whether there was a Vim port for mobile devices. You arranged that news into the Q&A format that SO uses, but it was still just an announcement.

This question here on meta also suggests that you might want to have a closer look at the FAQ. Your question wasn't closed because of anything to do with Vim or self-answers.

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And even if there was a demand, SO wasn't the place for it. It was simply off-topic. –  Grant Thomas Jan 28 '12 at 0:46
"to indicate that anyone ever actually wanted to know ..." ?! I didn't see that as a requirement anywhere. I don't want to know the answers to half of the questions that gets posted and self-answered, but don't see anyone closing them. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 0:48
@ldigas And I quote: "You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face." –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 0:51
@ldigas: "I didn't see that as a requirement anywhere." It's implicit by the definition of the word "question" that someone actually wants the answer. You didn't want the answer; you were just trying to force a news post into Stack Overflow's Q&A style. That's an abuse of the site; the question deserved to be closed and even deleted. –  Nicol Bolas Jan 28 '12 at 0:51
@NicolBolas - how does that differ from all other self-answerable questions (answered a minute after)? It is obvious the author already knew the answer before posting the question. –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 0:53
@blahdiblah - first answer meta.stackexchange.com/questions/17845/… "Just post your answer immediately after you post the question. Like you say, phrase it as a request for comments to improve your solution. Your intentions are clear --- I wouldn't think you were trying to generate reputation." –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 0:53
@blahdiblah - It was practical, it was answerable, it was a question. And was I in a situation to have an iPad I would've had a problem of not having Vim. So what's the problem? –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 0:55
@Idigas: Honestly? Who would come here for information on whether Vim is available for iPad? Why not just search the App Store and see "oh look, they have Vim." –  animuson Jan 28 '12 at 0:58
@ldigas Two out of three isn't enough. Practical? Maybe. Answerable? Yes. Actual problem? Definitely not. –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 0:59
@Idigas: It will probably get closed now, since it's been brought to light. –  animuson Jan 28 '12 at 1:06
@ldigas Questions should be about "actual problems that you face." You've made clear that your question was not an actual problem that you faced. I'm not sure how to make that clearer. –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 1:17
@blahdiblah - Any question that gets answered immediatelly is not about an "actual problem that you face", since the very fact that you answered it right afterwards implies that you don't longer have that as a problem. I.e. you solved it already. So you're putting it here as a question/answer for others, or as a future reference for yourself. My question/answer satisfies both those "demands". –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 1:21
@ldigas The crucial difference is that someone did face that problem. Your justification for your question rests on the notion that someone might face that problem. The difference is important. –  blahdiblah Jan 28 '12 at 1:34
@blahdiblah - Who did? (find examples of self-answered questions) Author posts question, a minute later - author posts answer. What evidence do you have that anyone ever faced that problem? –  ldigas Jan 28 '12 at 1:37
@Idigas as others have already said, the problem here is not the self-answer, but the promotional aspect. The community generally frowns on overt self-promotion and tends to vote it down and flag it as spam, so be careful. Post good, relevant answers, and if they happen to be about your product, so be it. your post is obviously overt self-promotion, and the community tends to dislike that, even though it's about a free product (which I think is great). –  Pëkka Jan 28 '12 at 1:51

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