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I am truly outraged. I made a question, and 1 person answered. It helped, but didn't solve the problem. Every single piece of input from members was, from then on, through comments. Now, about 3.5 hrs since I last checked my question, all the comments have been deleted. What do I do now. Tell me, what do I do now?! 90% of the input on my question was on the comments, and some really mentally impaired moderator deleted them all. I needed input urgently, and now, it's all gone. Please, atleast, if a log exists, please by god post them here.

There might not have been that helpful, but we were getting somewhere. Now, I have no means of contacting one of the comments-conversation participants, they've no posts for me to '@'. This is not normal, please, atleast give a warning if it's too long or somewaht offensive, before deleting them all. You mods may not understand, but deleting them all is highly offensive (atleast without some sort of warning). We were just discussing my problem, and suddenly the posts are gone. I'm sorry, but this is not normal.

And now I have -4 rep... I don't understand you people... I gues you don't care if a mod suddenly decides he (or her) doesn't like the comments and deletes them without a warning. I understand I may be being somewhat rude, but sometimes mods here abuse their power. Sorry, but they do. They are destroying something put some effort into (trying, or actually succeeding to help) over god knows wat.

In response to a comment, I intend in no way (I might've, I was really outraged by then. Calmer now) Bashing mods. But some do abuse their powers. Warnings are one of the pillars of a fair community.

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Was it a nice chair? –  user7116 Feb 23 '12 at 0:24
    
I've never heard the expression "Thanks for costing me a chair" before... what does it mean? –  Pops Feb 23 '12 at 0:25
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I hate to say, but SO doesn't operate on deadlines for people –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 0:41
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Goddamn moderators, I just received a message for being rude, but this is outrageous. ... so there's probably more to that string of comments than you're telling us here. –  Pëkka Feb 23 '12 at 0:41
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You can't bash mods at the same time as you expect help. –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 0:44
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Bing has the first five comments in its cache, but these probably aren't what HolyThunder is looking for. (No other cache will have more because the rest are AJAX-loaded.) –  Jeremy Banks Feb 23 '12 at 0:47
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So you barge into a place that offers free help, think it's okay for you to be rude to people and break the site's rules because of your oh so important deadline, call the moderator who cleaned up your comments a retard, and expect to find a symphatetic ear? Whatever works for you, man. –  Pëkka Feb 23 '12 at 0:47
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You can't repost a question and expect to have a good reaction. Just like you can't expect people to obey your deadlines. That's really not how SO works. –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 0:47
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I'm going to make some popcorn, this is better than the Bachelor! –  Jesse Feb 23 '12 at 0:48
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@Holy I agree that deleting all comments may not have been the right thing to do, but comments are second-class citizens around here and subject to deletion any time... not that the community is always fond of that, but it's the way it is. Also AFAIK, there is no log. So the only thing you can do is ask the people who talked to you to re-post their thoughts. –  Pëkka Feb 23 '12 at 0:52
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Reposting questions is adding noise and spam to the system on purpose. You're setting a deadline in each question, including this one, saying you'll fail if you don't get help right now –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 0:53
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I hope the comments on this question don't get deleted. This is juicy! P.S. @Holy, reposting questions is called "purposely adding noise" because you are intentionally creating duplicates on a site that avoids duplicate content. –  John Feb 23 '12 at 0:55
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@HolyThunder You're adding noise by reposting and demanding input. –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 0:56
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And remember everyone here is probably a professional with a day job who's trying to give back to the community a little bit. Show a little respect and they'll give you anything. –  Jesse Feb 23 '12 at 0:57
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"What do I do now. Tell me, what do I do now?! 90% of the input on my question was on the comments, and some really mentally impaired moderator deleted them all. I needed input urgently, and now, it's all gone. Please, atleast, if a log exists, please by god post them here." Nope, not demanding at all. –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 1:01

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Like this - //find mouse coordinates var mouseX = 0; var mouseY = 0; $('#canvas').mousemove(function(e){ mouseX = e.pageX + this.offsetLeft; mouseY = e.pageY + this.offsetTop; }); HolyThunder

+1 Well done. Not on the answer; that was trivial, but rather on understanding what the problem was. I tell you, sometimes you need real psychic ability on SO... davin

@davin: Thanks :) But honestly it's just the result of some trial-and-error with these kind of issues that makes you remember it well. pimvdb

Dude, I'm new to javascript/jquery, just asking a question... I didn't know that if I used var again it'd create a new local variable. Jeez, I bet you play LoL. HolyThunder

Also, pimvd, it didn't work. Mind taking a look at the question again? HolyThunder

@HolyThunder, please try and understand, there is absolutely no problem with asking a question. Nobody expects you to know everything - if they did, this site wouldn't exist. Although it is expected that you explain yourself slightly more clearly than "tried X, didn't work, here's the code." If you're asking for others' help, think about what you write from their perspective - we can't know what you've tried to do (that code you posted clearly isn't complete), in what circumstances it didn't work, etc. So without telling us, how are we supposed to help? davin

@davin Ohhhhhhh.... See, I thought you were talking about me not being able to understand the problem, and "not having psychic abilities.. Oh, sorry abou that then... Anyways, I'm just tryong to get them to use them in another thing, i've been trying to see if they work through an alert that shoes them, if they do I'll use them on something else. HolyThunder

@HolyThunder, this works: http://jsfiddle.net/G8vZG/ which again begs the obvious: "it doesn't work" doesn't help! How doesn't it work? Where doesn't it work? Show the code in which it doesn't work... davin

Ok, I'm reformulating the post with some more information. HolyThunder

@HolyThunder: Again, you have two vars for started. Since the variable should persist between function calls of .click, you should define it (using var) outside the function (e.g. at the same level you declared mouseX), and update it without var. Currently, you're creating the variable each time again, and set it to 0. pimvdb

@pimvd Oh, sorry. Goddam, twice the same mistake... HolyThunder

@pimvd Just fixed that, still not working... I wish there was a jquery or javascript class for this... HolyThunder

@HolyThunder: You should put code which access elements (such as $("#canvas")) in the $(function() {, because that's what the $(function() { is for (running the code only after all elements have become available). pimvdb

updated it, still not working... Why, oh why... HolyThunder

@pimvd updated it, still not working... Why, oh why... HolyThunder

@HolyThunder, What do you expect to happen if you set a variable to 0 and then directly after put an if(variable==0){...}else{...}? When will the else ever be evaluated? Why haven't you checked yourself the path of execution; preferably with a debugger, or at least with console logs, or even alerts? Why do you think it "doesn't work"? What is the expected behaviour and what is the actual behaviour? It's like talking to a brick wall - I'm trying to explain to you to clarify your queries, and your response is: "Okay, sure thing. But it still doesn't work". Are you serious? davin

Alright, sorry if I haven't been clear enough (my head is killing me today, that might have something to do with it. And yeah, I also missed the fact that everytime I'm clicking that it's going to set that var to 0. My objective is to get it to, when I click inside those coordinates (for now it's the white rectangle, I'll be changing it later to the circles themselves) for a white, not-completely opaque circle to appear. Also, any suggestions on a good debugger? HolyThunder

Using chrome's built-in one now. First, it shoed me that game(); wasn't deined, but those were leftovers and I removed those. Now, it shows nothing. HolyThunder

@HolyThunder: Perhaps it's useful to post a test case on http://jsfiddle.net to let others test as to what's wrong. pimvdb

@pimvd thanks or the suggestion, done. HolyThunder

@HolyThunder: The circle is drawn when you click in the black area to the bottom left of the red circle. It looks like you set the wrong coordinates since the ones in the if clause don't correspond to the white rectangle. pimvdb

@HolyThunder: First, it seems that the arguments for drawRectangle are (x, y, width, height), so you'll have to add the width to x to get the right x coordinate. Second, to get relative coordinates to the canvas, you should use e.pageX - this.offsetLeft because you should use the top left of the canvas as the origin (0, 0). http://jsfiddle.net/wXMyH/1/ pimvdb

@HolyThunder, with this large number of comments, you might consider taking the discussion to an appropriate chatroom. Ken Redler

Someone deleted all the comments, wh, oh goddamn why? We were getting somewhere, and now everything has been deleted. WTH. Goddamn moderators, I just received a message for being rude, but this is outrageous. WHY would you ever do this? 90% of input on my question was here! HolyThunder

pimvd, please try to help, I am somewhat desperate since my project is due in 2 days (after tomorrow). HolyThunder

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This answer will self-destruct in two days. –  Robert Harvey Feb 23 '12 at 0:59
    
Thanks, thanks very much. –  HolyThunder Feb 23 '12 at 1:00
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@HolyThunder, with this large number of comments, you might consider taking the discussion to an appropriate chatroom. Ken Redler. I would've but the thing is, if someone had checked, I didn't log in between that comment and the deletion. –  HolyThunder Feb 23 '12 at 1:01
    
Also, am I breaking any rules by reposting this on my actual question? –  HolyThunder Feb 23 '12 at 1:01
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Do not do that. –  Robert Harvey Feb 23 '12 at 1:02
    
Got it. Thanks for the quick reply. –  HolyThunder Feb 23 '12 at 1:03
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I admire the patience of the person willing to help him, I'd have given up long ago. But I don't really understand where he was being rude until the "goddamn moderators" comment, which was apparently in response to an accusation of his being rude. I don't really agree in general with all the overzealous comment deletion by moderators (users should definitely delete their own obsolete comments), and I don't see why this user had the book thrown at them. His reaction here has been generally inappropriate, but a certain degree of frustration is understandable. –  Cody Gray Feb 23 '12 at 2:55

Police officers enforce laws to keep us safe, right? But what if a police officer stops a pregnant woman speeding to the hospital to have birth and instead of helping her get there he gives her a ticket?

It's a moderators job to make this site better, right? I think moderators here (and I use the term 'moderator' loosely here because I'm referring to all kinds of users who moderate at different levels) often become more interested in moderating purely for the sake of moderating than in actually making the site better.

It's fine if moderators want to clean up a question by deleting chatty comments, but for crying out loud use some common sense and wait long enough that you're not likely to ruin someone's day like this. Or maybe take the time to move relevant info from the comments into the answer (if you don't want to take the time to do that then maybe you should consider whether you're really a good candidate to moderate). Making this site better ultimately means helping people doesn't it? So if you have a little patience and let someone get helped before you blow away their comments, that's a GOOD thing.

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You really don't know what you're talking about here, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and explain it: comments are second-class citizens on this network. They are considered to be noise, and do not enjoy the same protections granted to "posts" which are questions and answers. Moderators are overloaded because of the large amounts of garbage that gets posted. They don't just go to a comment thread and clean it out for fun - someone had to flag it and then the mod read it, checked the flag, and decided the whole string of comments had little value (which is correct). –  JNK Feb 23 '12 at 14:06
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I'll also add that you're unlikely to get a lot of support for your point of view by being relatively new and telling everyone how they are doing things wrong without having any sort of context to make your judgments. –  JNK Feb 23 '12 at 14:13
    
"Or maybe take the time to move relevant info from the comments into the answer (if you don't want to take the time to do that then maybe you should consider whether you're really a good candidate to moderate)." Unless the relevant info from comments is actually a clarification about the question, it doesn't belong in the question. As @JNK mentioned, comments aren't the main focus of the site: good questions are. –  simchona Feb 23 '12 at 16:15

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