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I don't understand. Reading through the comments and answers I get the feeling that most people on Meta are not the same people on SO. People on this site seem very mean spirited as opposed to those on SO.

Is it because there are too many "dumb" questions, this site is made up of complete a-holes?

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What is this "SO" place? –  Shog9 Aug 18 '09 at 18:53
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SO stands for expert-sex-change. It is a website where you can go to get really lost in adds. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:55
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One thing to take note of, if you're trying to characterize other people as being rude and inconsiderate, it's not the best idea to wander into their midst and call them all "complete a-holes" –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:03
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@devinb: To be fair, I've been called worse. –  Eric Aug 18 '09 at 19:04
    
@devinb: actually, seems like a great way to bring out the worst in whoever you're addressing... –  Shog9 Aug 18 '09 at 19:07
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Actually, I'm an NP-complete a-hole. –  tvanfosson Aug 18 '09 at 19:07
    
@Shog - whomever, you ignorant git. :P –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 19:08
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@Eric: You're not only a complete a-hole, you're a partial b-hole, too. –  Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 18 '09 at 19:08
    
tv, that was so nerdy and so awesome. I declare you winner of the thread. –  Eric Aug 18 '09 at 19:08
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@tvanfosson: Not rigorous enough. You have to show how another NP-complete a-hole can be reduced to you. –  Bill the Lizard Aug 18 '09 at 19:23
    
Wait... I just realized. The "question" is unclear. Are you pro or anti "assholism"? –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:43
    
@tvanfosson: If you can prove that you are also a P a-hole, there's a million dollars in it for you. –  Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 18 '09 at 19:44
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@Bill -- in college I applied for a job as a traveling salesman. QED. –  tvanfosson Aug 18 '09 at 20:09
    
you are all my niches –  Steven A. Lowe Aug 19 '09 at 3:52
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There's a big difference in what is being discussed on the different sites. For the regular sites, it is definitely important to stay polite and impartial because you are supposed to be answering questions.

On Meta, there is a lot more discussion concerning the future of the sites and how the community should operate. This is when you start introducing opinions and that is when people will start going toe-to-toe on issues, and often times people will take more offense at this conflict than they would about a disagreement over whether 2+2 really equals 4.

On Meta, opinions matter highly, and it is also an avenue for a lot of us to be more vocal and laid back and not have to feel so "professional". I agree that this is not an excuse to be a blatant asshole, but I consider this site a lot more like the "teacher's lounge" where Mr. Johnson and Mrs. Crabtree can smoke and drink their coffee and not have to be the perfect role models that they have to be in front of the students.

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2+2=5. I always use very large values of 2. –  squillman Aug 18 '09 at 18:42
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@squillman: You are wrong. And your mother is fat. –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:43
    
Oh god we're falling into the trap again! –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:43
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Ponies Suck! –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:43
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"where Mr. Johnson and Mrs. Crabtree can smoke and drink" - We can smoke and drink here?!? Why didn't I know about this before now? –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:48
    
@jjnguy: +1 for analogy fail –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:49
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Analogies are like old barns: They always fall apart at some point. –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 18:50
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Wait, so we're not supposed to drink and post on SO? Whoops... –  Eric Aug 18 '09 at 18:52
    
@mmyers iseewhatyoudidthere –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:52
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You jackasses. Now my clothes smell like smoke. –  Shog9 Aug 18 '09 at 18:52
    
@TheTXI: you're going to make me cry –  squillman Aug 18 '09 at 18:53
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@Shog9: That's because we were burning them. Unclear requirements... –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 18:54
    
10 + 10 = 100 –  Troggy Aug 18 '09 at 20:59
    
2 + 2 = Jello –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 21:05
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I think some people just let loose a little more here. Since this site isn't about programming so much, there's less incentive to keep it professional.

With that said, I still refrain from insulting comments. However, I am more likely to post nonsense here than I am on SO. I think that goes for several others as well (at least the nonsense part). I can't think of anyone in particular who posts nonsense, though (*cough*).

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Very true...I try to be nice on SO. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:34
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I would view the "rude comments" here with a grain of salt.

Users here are regulars on the other sites but, more to the point, they are regulars here. I would say that, oh, 90% of the rude-appearing comments you see here are just community-member "regulars" participating in on-going, sometimes-inside jokes... trading in little quips, and barbs, and a bit of one-upmanship.

Harmless, mostly.

Then again, some people are just itching to be annoying.

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And some people are just itching. I knew I shouldn't have gone into the deep grass yesterday... –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 18:56
    
I always win in the one-up contests btw. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:56
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It should also be noted that if programmers aren't given a proper outlet to be snarky, their heads will explode in a cloud of confetti. –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:57
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@jjnguy: no you don't. –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:58
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@TheTXI: That's nothing! My confetti will explode in a cloud of heads! –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 18:58
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I've beaten jjnguy in a one-up contest. –  Eric Aug 18 '09 at 18:58
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I hate fine print. It's just annoying. What does it say? –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:02
    
Oh Meta...I would get way more work done without you around... –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 19:02
    
@devinb "Then again, some people are just itching to be annoying." –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 19:02
    
"What's it say!? I can't read!!" –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 19:03
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She studied it carefully for about 15 minutes. Finally, she spoke. "There's something written on here," she said, frowning, "but it's really teensy." -- [Dave Barry, "The Columnist's Caper"] –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 19:10
    
(I happened to have muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html open in another tab right now.) –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 19:10
    
At jinguy, you don't understand sarcasm at all do you. Not even a little. Such a sad pathetic, itchy, annoying life you must lead. –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:34
    
At devinb - I prefer to err on the side of helpful on the internet. I just picture you as an 80-year-old man squinting at the monitor. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 19:59
    
I'm none of those things! Well... "at the monitor" I suppose. "pictured" I suppose. "Helpful" I certainly am. "err" I certainly don't. "devinb" that accurately names me. "the internet" I wouldn't consider myself. What was I saying? –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 20:11
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I think most people don't take meta seriously, or at least don't assign the same value as they do to SO.

Examples of this are all the problems with people migrating here stuff that doesn't belong, increase of sarcasm and bad manners, etc

And since they can't be funny or rude on the other sites, they come here (wrongly) to vent

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I take Meta way too seriously. –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 18:40
    
The first link isn't an example of what you are saying. It is Jeff saying that desktop things don't belong on serverfault. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 18:41
    
"most people" –  jmfsg Aug 18 '09 at 18:41
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@jjnguy, fixed link –  jmfsg Aug 18 '09 at 18:42
    
Anyone who doesn't take meta seriously should be shot out of a cannon into a wall, and then shot. –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:11
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With the same cannon? –  jmfsg Aug 18 '09 at 19:12
    
With actual cannons. –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:33
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Cannon-shooting cannons? –  Hilarious Comedy Pesto Aug 18 '09 at 19:45
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Who would prime the inner cannons? –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:50
    
other people, shot out of other cannons? –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:51
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Cannons don't shoot cannons. Humans shoot cannons. –  Brad Gilbert Aug 18 '09 at 20:00
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Yes, we are the same people, but not always with the same name. I am Rich B over on SO.

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And I am btk on MSO. –  GEOCHET Aug 18 '09 at 21:57
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And I'm the Easter Bunny. –  jjnguy Aug 18 '09 at 21:58
    
And Welbog is the Queen of England. -- mmyers –  GEOCHET Aug 19 '09 at 19:13
    
And Welbog is mmyers. -- The Queen of England –  mmyers Aug 19 '09 at 19:17
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Lots of people are regulars on the other sites.

For the most part, the people on Meta are also regulars on one of the SO family sites.

Some of the time you get people asking questions that aren't regulars, but everyone answering is very familiar with how things work.

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Many of us are regulars on SO. I apologize if you've been met with negativity here. Since this is the meta-forum, people are much more laid-back and less-reserved to bite at eachother.

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Laid-back means more rude? I always thought it was the opposite. –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 18:52
    
@mmyers: Look at it this way...who would you be more likely to call a raging homo...your best friend while watching football on a Sunday afternoon, or your boss? –  TheTXI Aug 18 '09 at 19:00
    
@TheTXI: No. –  mmyers Aug 18 '09 at 19:09
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An apology isn't an answer! –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:34
    
@TheTXI: I don't think either of them would say "raging" –  devinb Aug 18 '09 at 19:35
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All you have to do to figure out if their regulars to the other sites, is to check their accounts tab.

http://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/{userid}?tab=accounts


Most of the accounts that I have looked at, have more rep elsewhere.

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How in the hell did you score such an awesome userid? Well done! –  Eric Aug 18 '09 at 20:19
    
Right place at the right time, I guess. –  Brad Gilbert Aug 18 '09 at 20:24
    
I only wish I had been so lucky on S[UF]. –  Brad Gilbert Aug 18 '09 at 20:25
    
Most. What do you have to say for the sad pandas who have Meta as their highest? –  random Aug 18 '09 at 23:47
    
When your meta rep is the highest of all the other accounts, you're spending way too much time thinking about S(O|F|U) –  Brad Gilbert Aug 19 '09 at 19:24
    
Actually if you looked, you would notice that I got over 2k, in just two months on Meta. While it took 6 months to get that high on Stack Overflow. At that rate, I'll have 10k on Meta, before I even get to 5k on Stack Overflow. –  Brad Gilbert Aug 19 '09 at 19:29
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I think you can feel the love everywhere.

Whats With All The Rude Comments Recently

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