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Here are the two questions: (10k only - since both are now deleted)

The titles are exactly the same - down to the letter. They were also posted two minutes apart.

How did this user get past both the duplicate title filter and the 20 minute question rate limit?

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Christmas miracle? –  Adam Rackis Dec 14 '12 at 16:54
    
They're deleted now, so perhaps we will never know. Are you sure they were both from the same account? –  Sam I am Dec 14 '12 at 18:05
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@SamIam 10ks, mods, and developers can see deleted posts. And of course you'd need a developer to fix it anyways. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 18:06
    
@SamIam Same account. –  Asad Dec 14 '12 at 18:07
    
He posted, deleted, then reposted? –  Cole Johnson Dec 14 '12 at 18:58
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@ColeJohnson Nope. I see no deletions in the revision histories other than the most recent ones that came after I linked them here. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 18:59
    
@Mysticial Is there a rep limit on seeing the revision history for a deleted post? –  Asad Dec 14 '12 at 19:08
    
Yes, you still need 10k to see revisions. But neither of them are interesting. For both of them, the OP posts the question, it gets closed and then deleted - presumably by people pouring in from meta. For the second one, the Community user adds the duplicate link. But otherwise, that's it. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 19:11
    
I've seen hiccups twice or thrice where the system somehow does a double-submit on the user's behalf. The posters had no idea that it had happened -- they just hit the "Post your question" button once. /cc @Asad –  Josh Caswell Dec 14 '12 at 19:27
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But they were 2 minutes apart, and the contents of the posts are not identical. (not saying the OP couldn't have ninja edited though) –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 19:30
    
@Mysticial: I don't recall the exact time spread of the earlier hiccups I've seen, but I believe there were a few minutes between. I can't find the relevant previous Meta question although I think one exists. –  Josh Caswell Dec 14 '12 at 19:37
    
@Mysticial It is interesting that he posted the copy before his question was closed. –  Asad Dec 14 '12 at 19:38
    
@Asad I suppose he posted the second one with more information in response to the comments on the first one. Of course neither version was a good question, so they both got nuked. But of course is why the server allowed it in the first place. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 19:41

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The secret might be that the OP added a trailing . or some such character which allowed the question to go through, but was stripped from the title automatically. I haven't tested it so far, but this comment indicates the presence of this behavior at least as far back as September '11.

To elaborate, there is an unrelated automatic ASCII-fication of the title that occurs when you submit your question. From what Marc says here, I assume the dupe check occurs on the title as it stands before the removal of characters, so you can add a bunch of garbage characters to make your title temporarily unique.

Needless to say, this is a bug.

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But this doesn't explain the 20 minute rate limit. So there's definitely a lot more going on here. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 18:44
    
@Mysticial I'll try to find it, but I remember someone saying the timestamp for a question is derived from the time on the person's machine. It was on a question about an answer being posted before the question, if you've seen it. –  Asad Dec 14 '12 at 18:49
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That's not possible because the rate-limit is done by ip address. So it has to be enforced on the server-end. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 18:50
    
@Mysticial Do you think they might have forgotten to enforce account based throttling as well? A user could just use a VPN to get around it otherwise. –  Asad Dec 14 '12 at 18:59
    
That's certainly possible. But we'd need a dev to confirm that. And even then, it's a loop-hole that may or may not be worth fixing. –  Mysticial Dec 14 '12 at 19:00

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