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Like everyone else I've been reading bobince's outbreak about parsing html with regex with great amusement. When I read in the comments that bobince had been awarded two gold badges (html and regex) for this single post, something occured to me. What would happen if I edited the question and added another tag? Unable to resist the urge I appended the "parsing" tag to the OP.

It took a few hours, but sure enough. bobince is now proud owner of the gold medal "parsing" badge. That means that we currently have a mechanism that allows any owner of a 1000+ votes post to receive any tag gold badge they'd like, and even funnier is the fact that anyone else can reward them with an arbitrary gold medal.

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Maybe this is how that coveted Generalist badge will be gained/gamed. –  random Nov 18 '09 at 12:14
    
After posting this, Emil, bobince's answer will get locked soon :) –  Ladybug Killer Nov 18 '09 at 12:21
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I'd add a plzsendtehcodez tag. –  alex Nov 18 '09 at 12:55
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I forsee him getting gold "Ponies", "jon-skeet", and "waffles" badges. –  Tom Ritter Nov 18 '09 at 12:57
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+1 for scientific experimentation. –  Bill the Lizard Nov 18 '09 at 14:45
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did i miss something? how'd he get 1700 upvotes in nine days? what drew so many people to the post? –  Kip Nov 18 '09 at 15:05
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@Kip: Jeff posted an link on Coding Horror. codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001311.html It was like catnip for nerds. :) –  Bill the Lizard Nov 18 '09 at 15:09
    
@Bill the Lizard: thanks. :) –  Kip Nov 18 '09 at 15:15
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Heh. Yes, if you added the tag just to test the system please do remove it and have ♦ fix as necessary... I wouldn't mind having a gold ponies badge though. –  bobince Nov 18 '09 at 16:32
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He could have the only gold "beta" badge! Or a "Founder" badge like Jeff and Joel were going to have! Or a "bobince" badge of awesomeness! Or just an "awesome" badge! The possibilities are endless! –  mmyers Nov 18 '09 at 17:15
    
@bobince, I've removed the tag. Let's see if it disappears by itself during some nightly batch job or something. Otherwise, I'm sure that someone with database access who sees this can remove it if you really want to get rid of that extra gold badge. :) –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 18:22
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@Emil H - As far as I'm aware (based on the discussion in this thread and elsewhere) the badge won't really go away. The SO badge system checks for badges being earned, but not being kept. –  Super Long Names are Hilarious Nov 18 '09 at 18:48
    
@CMNC, Yeah, I don't think it will disappear automatically either. –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 19:05
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If you really want to be cruel to bobince you can add a downvote-me tag to the question. It's like an SO-badge version of a "kick me" sign! –  gnostradamus Nov 18 '09 at 21:20

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up vote 19 down vote accepted

Good point -- I converted it to wiki. Though I think everyone involved deserved the rep and badges they got thus far, without the Parsing badge..

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You are NO FUN AT ALL, you know that? –  mmyers Nov 19 '09 at 15:15
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Will they lose the rep in a recal? –  Larry Dec 4 '09 at 20:30

I'd just like to point out that I alone prophesied that this sort of thing could happen months ago in a post on uservoice.

Alas, no one listened, and now you have only yourselves to blame! Oh, the horror! Your hubris has caused something to be wrong on the internets! We are all done for!!!

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I wish I could +1000 this and change the tags on this question to [time-traveler] or something actually funny –  John Rasch Nov 18 '09 at 16:17
    
Voted up to +3. Only 997 to go... –  mmyers Nov 18 '09 at 17:13
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We should add and remove the [2012] tag to the question, since bobince obviously represents the apocalypse. –  Super Long Names are Hilarious Nov 18 '09 at 17:38
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@Changing: At the very least we need to make sure his answer ends up with 2012 votes. –  gnostradamus Nov 18 '09 at 17:46
    
I agree. I've already contributed my best efforts. –  Super Long Names are Hilarious Nov 18 '09 at 18:05
    
Well done. Doesn't it feel good to see that you were right, though? :) –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 18:24
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I added the "fulfilled-prophecy" tag in your honor. I envision it'll take a while before you have 1000 votes, though. –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 18:32
    
Obligatory wrong on the internets link: xkcd.com/386 –  Andrew Grimm Oct 31 '11 at 1:48
    
+1 for a predicatively appropriate user name... –  Patrick M Apr 2 at 16:56

I agree with Adam here (I even up-voted his answer). The number of times this would be a problem doesn't warrant the effort it would take to fix.

Under normal conditions an answer would probably be converted to CW long before it reached the 400, let alone 1000, vote mark. I've just checked and there are no other 400+ vote answers that aren't community wiki (votes:400 wiki:0)

This has also highlighted a bug. bobince hasn't got the silver 400 vote badges for [regex] and [parsing] yet. He had previously earned the [html] silver badge.

If you check the silver regex and the gold regex you'll see one user in each and they're different! There's not even a silver parsing page.

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Can we revisit this? This is simply no longer true. stackoverflow.com/search?q=votes%3A1000+wiki%3A0 –  Miles Rout Jan 11 at 4:36
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@Miles The badge rules have been tightened up since these answers were posted. You can no longer get a tag badge from a single answer. You need 20 for the bronze badge alone. –  ChrisF Jan 11 at 9:17

In principle, this is a problem. In practice, there are only four posts with 1000+ votes, and the other three (besides this one) are all CW.

I'm not sure what the best way to fix this would be that is still fair. I have an ugly feeling this will fall into the edgecase/wontfix bin.

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Yeah, I realize that there's very few 1000+ posts. Still, stackoverflow will hopefully be around for many, many years. Some answers accumulate more votes with time, so who knows how many such posts there'll be in 10 years? :) I agree that it isn't a very urgent problem. Just thought it'd be worth mentioning. –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 12:30
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On the other hand... This will no doubt work for silver badges with 400+ votes as well. There's a lot of those. –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 12:53
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@Emil: Good point. I agree it's a problem, but unless you can think of a sensible and simple way to prevent it, I can virtually guarantee it will not be addressed by the dev team. Worse problems with simpler solutions have lingered for longer. –  ベレアー アダム Nov 18 '09 at 14:43
    
@Emil: Actually, if you check ChrisF's response, you can see that there are, in fact, no other 400+ vote answers that aren't CW either. –  ベレアー アダム Nov 18 '09 at 14:44
    
Ok, fair point. :) –  Emil H Nov 18 '09 at 14:46
    
my "256 is a nice round number" answer is almost there! (stackoverflow.com/questions/164556). in fact, it would be over 1000 votes except for the fact that everyone tried to hold it down to exactly 256 votes for so long. :) (102 downvotes as of last data dump- meta.stackexchange.com/questions/11022) –  Kip Nov 18 '09 at 15:12
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Whoa, I had no idea you could search like that. Awesome. –  matt b Nov 19 '09 at 3:31

To everyone suggesting that this problem doesn't really matter because there just aren't many 1000+/400+ answers, note that tag score also matters for the (arguably more important) tag synonym system.

Feel like proposing/voting on tag synonyms, but don't have the necessary tag score? If you've got an answer with score 5, you're good to go! Add the desired tag, wait until you're credited for it, then propose/vote to your heart's content! With a few similarly situated friends you can even get that synonym approved immediately!

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If you suspect tag abuse, flag the question and a moderator will deal with it. Given that there are few of them, this doesn't require a technical solution, and if the abuse gets bad then the question can be locked.

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At most, he will just gain 5 golden badges for 5 tags. Still, I wonder... If someone would remove a tag, would he lose a badge again?

I think it's quite exceptional when someone gains 1000 votes with one answer. That should be worth a badge per tag. :-) (Basically, a golden badge for at least every 200 votes.)

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Badges aren't normally lost (the [beta] badge being an exception) –  ChrisF Nov 18 '09 at 13:24
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If the question is edited with new tags every few hours, there is no limit to the number of badges he will get. –  user27414 Nov 18 '09 at 14:12
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As I understand it, if you remove a tag to make space for the new tag, the system will award the new badge, not remove the old badge, but also not update the count, because it knows he's "short" one now. So he'll get at most 5 badges added to the count, but a potentially unlimited number shown in his profile. –  Joel Coehoorn Nov 18 '09 at 14:59
    
I think tag badges do get removed. –  Mechanical snail Feb 9 '13 at 4:43

I was going to do a similar experiment .. I was going to edit 50 questions and insert an arbitrary tag to see if I'd win the 'taxonomist' badge.

It seemed a little destructive to do as an experiment, so I didn't do it .. but would still be interested in knowing if it would have worked.

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@tinkertim: See this question: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2931 And in particular, this answer:meta.stackexchange.com/questions/25357 –  Kip Nov 19 '09 at 14:35
    
@Kip: Thanks! Interestingly enough, it worked. –  Tim Post Nov 20 '09 at 3:24

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