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Sometimes at work I have an immediate need to get an answer for a question. I have 3,000 points at my disposal so I'd like to just put a bounty on the question as soon as I post it to give it the highest possible chance of being seen. Why do I have to wait?

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Plus one!- Can't think of a more useful use of points than to apply them towards getting an important question answered quickly. It's not fair to assume that all valid questions will be answered promptly- Sometimes complicated or esoteric questions need a boost, and choosing to spend earned points for that is a thoroughly fair and efficient mechanism, whereas a forced 2-day wait is arbitrary and frustrating. –  Yarin Mar 9 '11 at 15:59
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+1 I think it is unfair that I can't use my rep-points whenever I want. Often hard-to-answer questions will get a not very thorough answer quickly - and I'm convinced that this then dissuades further answers. The bounty is a way of countering this, but the forced delay is incredibly frustrating. –  UpTheCreek Jul 3 '11 at 11:39
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Thats like saying I've got 100k dollars to buy that benz but the dealership won't sell it to me...just because they'd rather me browse the selection of used ones. If I've got the money (the rep) allow me the freedom to do what I want with my money (the rep). In other words, +1 let us do it if we want to. –  JonH Oct 17 '12 at 15:54
    
+1. I know that some questions I ask are very difficult to answer and will require some time and quite a bit of expertise to get an answer. –  Marc-André Lafortune Apr 7 at 19:33

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In Podcasts #26 and #34, Joel and Jeff talked about this. They didn't want a bounty to interfere with the 'normal' method of asking/answering questions. If you're allowed to offer it right away, then it has the potential to create an economy where people only focus on questions with bounties.

It's important to note that it's very rare (over 90% of questions are answered) for your question not to be answered. As far as getting it answered quickly, well that depends on what time you ask your question (All times UTC).

Question time Graph

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but if we've contributed enough to the community to earn that many points, why aren't we allowed that right? they aren't clogging up the main section, they are in a "featured" area that only has bountied questions anyway. –  bpapa Jul 7 '09 at 18:58
    
But they would still appear in the 'recently' asked questions, and in the active, and in the 'featured' section. –  devinb Jul 7 '09 at 19:01
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maybe change up the algorithm then and only have them in the featured section. either way, I think this site is missing out on a filling a specific need - power players who, on a occasion, need an answer really quickly. sounds like something you should be able to "buy" - in this case using rep points instead of cash. –  bpapa Jul 7 '09 at 19:02
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@bpapa, the point is that they don't want people to leverage their rep to get the answer faster, Jeff & Joel believe that this could destroy the rest of the site. "Why answer questions with no bounty when I can answer bounty questions?" This moves away from the 'I do this for the good of all' to 'I need as much reputation as I can get'. –  Nathan Koop Jul 7 '09 at 19:39
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I think it's been proven that people answer questions that have bounties and questions that don't have bounties. The entire point of the bounty is making the question more attractive to answer. The site is getting so many questions at this point that I think it's something worth revisiting. –  bpapa Jul 8 '09 at 16:09
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What's the horizontal scale on the graph? –  David Thornley Sep 21 '09 at 19:43
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@David: Each vertical line is 1%. (Eyeballed at 1/24 = 4.17%.) –  Gnome Feb 22 '10 at 17:16

I'm for cutting the necessary waiting period for a bounty in half. 48 hours is too long.

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Especially since most auction sites expect turnaround in three hours. –  random Feb 2 '10 at 13:16
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@Random, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Care to clarify? –  Pëkka Feb 2 '10 at 16:30
    
It is not unheard of for users to take questions from elsewhere and ask them on SO, get a high quality answer easily within a short time, and post that back at the original. It's not even a bad strategy if you want to game the rep system and can spot decent questions. –  Gnome Feb 22 '10 at 17:20
    
it took 2 days for my question to be marked as asked 1 day ago. So it looked more like 72 hours. I am in CET –  mplungjan Jul 27 '10 at 8:22
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I couldn't agree more. After answering over a 1000 questions, I decided I needed to ask one myself in the end. It got only 25 views in the first day (though I don't think the title is that bad). I'd love to set a bounty now, but I can't. Questions turn around so fast at SO that it would be just as fair to set a bounty after 4 hours. Though 24 hours would be a great start. :) –  GolezTrol Oct 10 '11 at 15:32
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One of the arguments is that you should put effort in it before you set the bounty, but I have already put (much) effort in it before I asked. Otherwise, why would I ask it? –  GolezTrol Oct 10 '11 at 15:32

There is another issue here... IIRC, some of the voting options are disabled for posts with bounty - which has potential for abuse (although I believe ♦ moderators can still kill it if needed).

OK, in reality even under the current process somebody could radically edit their original post just before adding bounty, but it would be an obvious abuse, making it much easier for us to justify hitting delete.

However; I can easily imagine "what is your favourite pet's name for programming?" with a +50 bounty to prevent regular voting.

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I'm in favor of being able to offer a bounty from the start. I think this will yield more quality answers.

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Just post around normal US business hours. –  random Sep 22 '09 at 13:23
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@random - that does not always help. There are certain questions I have asked that even don;t get good answers after a bounty. Allowing bounties right away is the right thing to do. –  tim Jul 21 '10 at 17:47
    
@random - and what if you're not in the US? –  UpTheCreek Jul 3 '11 at 11:40
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@random - that doesn't help AT ALL. I've asked 5 so far. Only one got actually answered. So I'd really like to do at least something to accelerate my questions. –  Victor Sergienko Sep 28 '11 at 17:18

I have 3,000 points at my disposal so I'd like to just put a bounty on the question as soon as I post it to give it the highest possible chance of being seen. Why do I have to wait?

Why should you get to give your question "the highest possible chance of being seen" right away? Does your 3K reputation make you more important than users with lower rep? You shouldn't think of the rep you've accumulated as currency that you can use to buy a better position for your questions.

The right way to draw attention to your question is to spend some time writing a question that's clear, concise, and well-researched. High quality questions get voted up, which raises their visibility, improves your chance of getting solid answers, and increases your reputation all at the same time.

Bounties are fine for giving an extra incentive for people to spend time to help you find an answer to a difficult or obscure question, but only after time has shown that extra incentive is required.

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+1 for bold text. It's not that I want bounties to detract from the "normal" method of Q&A, it's that I don't want us to forget the "normal" method is writing quality posts. –  AAA Apr 15 '13 at 15:03
    
@djechlin Agree. If everyone started using bounties to maximize their questions' exposure, bounties become an arms race. –  Caleb Apr 15 '13 at 15:10

Why not allow a +100 bounty with no contributions on behalf of SO (not 50:50). Sometimes if you ask a difficult or complicated question you just plain want to reward whoever gives you the answer (plus encourage people to invest the time). At the moment complex or difficult questions just drop off a lot of the time as there is less motivation to answer them.

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Because you then get even more questions like http://superuser.com/questions/12442/where-i-can-get-free-cd-dvd-of-any-linux-distribution

I mean really? was the 100 rep bounty even necessary?

  • First, there's enough Linux love around there that it will get answered in short order.
  • Second, is teh Google failing you that bad?

Its because there aren't enough people to intelligently use the feature that it shouldn't get implemented as you suggest. I'm probably one of the few who think that while the bounty thing was a good idea on paper, human nature just kinda makes it not work right. (still on the first cup of coffee - for a more detailed and coherent answer see my answer to one of the initial bounty questions - or it might have been the blog post.)

That said, I've not seen many questions that don't get answers in the first 6-12 hours. The few that don't tend to be esoteric, or very technology specific, and in any case wouldn't significantly benefit from the bounty - except to attract people trying to post something to at least score the default position.

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I didn't understand from this answer what is wrong with having a bounty on that question. –  romkyns Jan 29 '11 at 22:06

Perhaps something could be worked here so that the you could offer an initial bounty, but they would be featured differently, it wouldn't affect their front page rating and the site wouldn't match the bounty points, something like that. I agree you've earned the points and it would be nice if you could "put that to work", but I also understand what I think (from memory here) was Joel's point that you wouldn't want the site to become people camping for questions with bounty points, so I don't think it should be overly encourage. Maybe even the person could incur a penalty. I think the key if the feature was added would be to disinsentivise it to the point that it would be used sparingly.

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I don't ask many questions (3 in 7 months); I mostly answer them. That said, the reasons George (posting for the SO team) outlines are IMHO garbage.

Regarding people focusing only on bounties. All you have to do is look at the current list of bounty questions to know that's bollocks. There are a lot of bounty questions, there are also a lot of non-bounty questions. People answer both now, why would they change? Answer: they wouldn't.

Also, the graph shown doesn't really matter. So what if most questions are answered during those time periods. So what if most questions are answered within an hour or two of posting?

At the time of this writing I have over 40k of rep. Once I passed the 10k mark, there apparently is zero Rep related reason to keep answering questions. I do so simply because I like to help others; which I was doing anyway.

I'd love to put this into use.

How about having the MINIMUM bounty start at something like 1000 rep points. Every hour that goes by drop it by 20 points until 48 hours is up. This would certainly limit the number of people even willing to consider making an immediate bounty; unless it was critical to them.


One additional thing: George mentioned that 90% of questions get answered. Which is great; however I believe that 90% of questions out there are fairly simple ones. It's the hard ones that don't get answered. The hard questions generally involve a little more research plus domain knowledge. That should be worth something.

For example, if I have a question about an issue that is a high priority to me which may involve a responder writing code to solve then I would like to be able to reward them quickly on it. I know I've certainly had problems that if a solution was available within an hour then it would have been worth 2000+ rep points to me. In short, I'd rather trade rep points to get difficult problems solved faster than expending real cash on my own research time.

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I agree with Chris' thoughts, but I also think you could add a "payment" system such that if you want to start an immediate bounty, it cost 2x as much as the face value of the bounty. In other words, if you want to post a 100 point bounty, it will cost you 200 points. High point users typically have higher ratings because they like to help, so I don't see a cause of abuse by them. Lower rated users (including myself) will have to think a little bit harder before expending so many rep points. –  RLH Oct 17 '12 at 14:01

I'm going to pull something that RLH said earlier in a comment out into an answer, because I think it deserves notice. Let immediate bounties happen, but put some sort of an overhead on it - enough so that the bounty transaction itself is a net rep consumer. (Say, twice as many points for the bounty as it's worth, minimum bounty of 100). If you wait the two days, you can go under standard bounty rules. This has the following effects.

  • Immediate bounties are inherently costly. They're going to take at least 200 points to throw out there. The effectiveness is much higher if you wait. Also, even being able to afford one in the first place indicates that you've been around for a little while, and have hopefully picked up a bit on how to write a good question. Possibly set a higher initial rep threshold (500, say? 1000?) to be more certain of that. Even if we don't open up standard close procedures, I'd think that a 1000+ point user blowing 200 points inefficiently for an immediate answer to a bad question would be rare enough we could afford a bit of mod time for it.

  • It won't break the rep economy, since swapping immediate bounties inherently takes rep out of the system. Anyone who wants to do it and keep doing it is going to have to generate a fair bit more rep than they're handing out.

  • It will allow a case where a moderately high-rep user who needs an answer to a high-complexity problem immediately can pay for one. It gives a certain class of experts a serious motivation to build rep - because they might want or need an immediate answer (or two, or three) some day. Personally, I fit into that group. I'd wince a bit at throwing 200 to 400 points at a problem, but there are times where I cannot afford to wait the two days.

...and in response to those who say "well, just hire a consultant" or suggest that we go to pay sites, it's not that simple. First, I honestly don't trust the resources at pay sites as much as I do the resources here. I know SO and use it frequently. I don't know the other sites. Second, I do not have money to spend elsewhere. I can build rep here, and then spend it just fine, but as soon a actual cash comes into the equation, the situation becomes far more complicated. Third, if it's a problem that's confusing and finicky enough that I can't figure it out after a bunch of poking at it, asking my coworkers, and a thorough web search or two, I feel like it would be better to have the answer out there - make life easier for the next coder who tries that web search.

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