This may or may not be appropriate, but I wanted to add this to the record before the original conversation (which was not enjoyed in the proper location, which would have been chat) gets moderated away.
The user I was talking to had repeatedly reverted my edit that removed a "Thank you." signature from his -2 question. Pretty much all of his 175 questions have tags and titles! (though I managed to edit the first page before getting bored)
The following conversation ensued regarding this topic:
Me Also, why did you add your tags and thanks back in? They are redundant
and frowned-upon. I didn't remove them
I'm sorry Tomalak, I do not understand
what you are saying. Only thing I got
was you not liking that I said "Thank
you." which I always do.
Me SO is neither a forum nor a chat: it is a knowledge resource;
signatures and thanks are redundant.
All that should be in a question post
is the question. Please stop reverting
Francisc Dear Tomalak, the point of the question is not to explain how
serialize works. If you have an
answer, write it, if you don't, don't.
Also, there are no rules saying that I
cannot say Thank you. out of courtesy
(you do know what that is I hope). It
is not a signature. This being said,
please top editing my question for no
reason. As guidelines indicate: fix
grammatical or spelling errors,
clarify meaning without changing it,
correct minor mistakes, add related
resources or links, always respect the
original author. Goodbye.
Me This proposal, requesting that the already-well-known
conventions that I have described to
you be added to the Stack Overflow
FAQ, may be of interest to you. Also
this section of the FAQ, which
reads "if you are not comfortable with
the idea of your contributions being
collaboratively edited by other
trusted users, this may not be the
site for you."
Francisc Those are not rules. Sorry. As you said, it is a proposal.
Me Yes, a proposal to add to some documentation the already-well-known
conventions. Conventions are not
rules, but conventions are
conventions, and a good member of the
community follows them. A good member
of the community certainly does not
stubbornly insist on reverting edits
that follow this convention, over and
Francisc Which you just wrote... haha.
Me Yes, I wrote it a few hours ago because I'm getting fed up of having
to deal with nonsense like this. It
seems like common sense to me. You
should notice that the proposal
references other posts, where people
(including 144k meta rep moderator
Jeff Attwood) indicate that they
also would like "thanks" to go away.
Francisc Tomalak, I like to say "Thank you." because if you got to
that point, you read all that I had
wrote. It's perfectly normal and
polite. I have been doing this in all
my question here and anywhere else. I
can understand pertinent edits and so
on, but this is purely subjective, I
pasted the valid reasons for editing
in my comment above. I'm not sure what
else there is to talk about.
Francisc What seems like common sense to you doesn't mean it's a rule.
Again, stick to the rules. Edit
mistakes and clarify, don't rephrase
because you don't like how it looks.
How much does one line of text (which
is also polite to write) change in
terms of readability? Nothing.
Me Yes, I can see you've been doing it on all of your posts. I
started editing them out but even I
got bored. There are no valid reasons;
you merely said "but it's polite",
ignoring both my counter-advice and
the established etiquette on this
knowledge resource website. There is
nothing else to talk about as long as
you continue to blindly ignore it.
fix grammatical or spelling errors, clarify meaning
without changing it, correct minor
mistakes, add related resources or
links, always respect the original
Me Also, I don't see why you think it's so damned polite. It's not as if
you're giving anything up by writing
"thank you". It's not as if it's
unusual that you're asking for help,
given the nature of the website. It's
merely a reflex action, not an actual
symbol of gratitude. An appropriate
symbol of gratitude would be to
contribute back into the community by
voting, answering questions, and
following established community
etiquette... not by writing two
arbitrary and redundant words at the
bottom of every single question,
adding needless noise.
Me You're also demonstrating, by quoting that passage over and over
again, a lack of understanding of the
distinction between hard-and-fast
rules and etiquette. What would be
polite, is for you to follow the
established etiquette that I have told
you about. What would also be polite
is for me to end this conversation
right here... which I shall now do.
Am I way off base here? Am I missing something huge?
For me, it keeps coming back to "SO is not a message board", and my programmer's instinct is telling me to hold the line, to fight the fight, to keep that "question" field in the database full of only one thing: the question.
It seems really obvious to me, but it's clear that either I'm missing something or some people just don't get it.