Timeline for Undone edits disappear from revision history
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| Jan 18, 2021 at 11:45 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://blog.stackoverflow.com with https://blog.stackoverflow.com
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| Mar 20, 2017 at 10:30 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://meta.stackexchange.com/ with https://meta.stackexchange.com/
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| Apr 24, 2014 at 13:34 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
Migration of MSO links to MSE links
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| May 30, 2013 at 22:13 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | The quick vote-locking thing has always been just a bit silly, IMHO @Tim. Never the less, if you find yourself needing to put in a dummy edit to retract a vote... So be it. Fixing one hack with a worse one ain't good. | |
| May 30, 2013 at 22:06 | comment | added | Tim Stone |
Like adding an HTML comment <!-- I was totally not the person who down voted you -->? Seems a bit silly if there's legitimately nothing left to correct, and the user is just quick on the turnaround to make you decide to reverse your vote.
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| May 30, 2013 at 21:38 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | So do something instead then. @Null | |
| May 30, 2013 at 21:35 | comment | added | NullUserException อ_อ Mod | -1 I was using this to undo votes (mostly downvotes) after the OP had changed the answer within the grace period - which locks my vote. Now instead of a silent reversal, there's an ugly banner that tells people I edited a post when in fact I did nothing. | |
| Feb 28, 2013 at 20:19 | comment | added | JoshDM | This has to be the reason I just got unupvoted ( stackoverflow.com/users/985906/joshdm?tab=reputation ) because I can't find any other way. I do have to wonder how or why it happened in the first place. | |
| Aug 21, 2012 at 16:43 | comment | added | Basic | It seems that this just happened to me ... meta.stackexchange.com/questions/144358/… Not that I think it was worth the effort involved to unupvote | |
| Jun 11, 2012 at 0:34 | vote | accept | Dennis | ||
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| May 23, 2012 at 15:29 | comment | added | a cat | @KevinVermeer I don't really think the vandalism possibilities are a problem either. First off, if you receive a flag about vandalism, whether you see nothing or an empty revision doesn't make a whole lot of difference. You'd still have no proof other than the flagger's word that anything bad happened. And usually when you encounter vandalism, you roll it back before reporting, and then the malicious user would be screwed anyway because his crimes are pinned down in the revision history. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 19:34 | comment | added | Jeremy | @BenBrocka The question gets un-bumped after the revision is destroyed. (I've used this to test posts in the Formatting Sandbox, then deleted my edit to unbump the sandbox so it doesn't clutter others' front page.) | |
| May 22, 2012 at 18:52 | comment | added | Zelda | This "strategic edit" will still bump the question, won't it? I mean it certainly bumps it before the grace period is up, seems ripe for abuse. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 18:01 | comment | added | user102937 | @KevinVermeer: Then what you need is a developer/moderator only history of every revision that takes place during the grace period. I personally don't think we need that; if the user can correct the problem within the five minute window, I say no harm no foul. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:58 | comment | added | Kevin Vermeer | I do. I care if someone else does it, I care if I see it, I care if other users have to see it, and I especially care if I get a flag-for-moderator-attention that some ordinarily trustworthy 2k+ user just edited nonsense/spam/pornography into a post but there's no record of anything happening. Vandalism is vandalism regardless of how long it lasts. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:52 | comment | added | user102937 | @KevinVermeer: But there is a record if someone else has to reverse the vandalism. If a user reverses their own vandalism within the five-minute window, who cares? We made that tradeoff when we created the grace period. Now everyone is up in arms about it? I don't get it. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:39 | comment | added | Kevin Vermeer | @yoda - Who cares? You've improved the post. I just changed Shog9's entire answer to "This is a bad bug, but even vandalism must be 30 characters." with an edit summary of "totally vandalized the post." (Interestingly, this doesn't show up in my activity/revisions at all). It was live for maybe 30 seconds, but I reverted it and now there's no history of that vandalism. Vote reversals aren't the issue. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:37 | comment | added | Shog9 Mod | @Robert: there's a record of close/reopen even if you're the only voter and it happens immediately. There's just no link to the revision history unless someone also edits the question, since close/reopen doesn't revise the post (yeah, yeah, there's some weirdness WRT duplicates but let's ignore that). | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:33 | comment | added | Lorem Ipsum | I too don't think that the vote reversal is that big a deal to worry about. If you fix it, people will come up with ways to work around it. Just off the top of my head, a way around would be to submit a good edit anonymously (and wait till it is approved by someone else) and you can easily change your vote without it ever being recorded that you had anything to do with it... If you want to abolish this corner case (I suspect very few actually abuse it), then you might as well post the names of each downvoter under the question. There probably are other things to worry about/improve than this. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:31 | comment | added | Kevin Vermeer |
@RobertHarvey - No, there absolutely needs to be a record of that, for the same reasons that Shog9 espoused about record-less edits. Fortunately, there is, it's just on the /posts/<post ID>/timeline secret record page. For example, I just closed and reopened this question on the meta of a site where I'm a mod. You can't see it unless you go to the timeline.
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| May 22, 2012 at 17:28 | comment | added | a cat | I don't really view the vote reversals as a problem. You need 2k rep to do it in the first place, and taking away the revision destruction wouldn't really help either. People could make minor edits instead, or indeed just continue the bogus-edit-then-undo strategy. It's not like that null revision that would stay would prove anything. Moderators still can't see who voted. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:23 | comment | added | user102937 | If a user ninja-undoes their edit, the only use case that I can see for stamping a revision is a vote change. Some ninja undoes are fairly useful; sometimes I unilaterally close a post, but then change my mind and reopen it. If I'm the sole voter, there's no record of that, nor does there need to be. | |
| May 22, 2012 at 17:17 | history | answered | Shog9Mod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |