Timeline for Disable migration for questions older than 60 days
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| Jul 22, 2013 at 14:20 | comment | added | endolith | @Shog9: Old, answered questions should be migrated if a new SE has been created that can give better answers to that question. Questions don't become dead just because they have some answers. electronics.stackexchange.com/q/14035/142 belongs on DSP.SE, for instance. | |
| Oct 19, 2012 at 12:25 | comment | added | gnat | "the target site doesn't get to decide" - here is a feature request about giving target site users a chance: suggested migrations review at target site | |
| Oct 19, 2012 at 0:06 | comment | added | Shog9 | @Gilles, if you come across a good, answered question that has been closed (correctly) as off-topic but would be a good fit somewhere else, post about it on Meta. We'll take care of them. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 23:18 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @Shog9 I may have underrated the harm caused by this change. It will cause more complaints as old questions are closed and deleted instead of migrated. And even I (a known deletionist) am not comfortable with that: I strongly prefer moving good content to a better place, to deleting that content. Or should migration requests systematically be transformed into historical locks? | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 23:16 | history | edited | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
I may have underrated the harm caused by this change
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| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:55 | comment | added | Shog9 | Not exactly; I want migrations reserved for situations that are beneficial to everyone involved. Or rather, I prefer to discourage bad migrations rather than making them less painful. Frankly, I think we're headed in the right direction there - but the cherry-picking / score-curve-wrecking migration complaints are legit and haven't really been addressed by previous changes. I've been urging folks - publicly and privately - to avoid migrating old questions for most of the year now, but it's clear the system itself could and should do more to make this harder. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:47 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | “OT question hit reddit” usually means don't bother asking, because the answer will be “not with that crap answer with a score of 50”. It sounds like what you really want is to remove migrations altogether, and I'm not completely against that: migration is useful but (at least as it is now) the benefits barely justify the trouble. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:43 | comment | added | Shog9 | It's slow because it's usually a dumb idea. For exceptional questions (such as those "OT question hit reddit" examples), it's probably worthwhile - otherwise, either migrate or don't. None of this precludes the asker from simply re-posting his question on another site if it's closed on one. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:40 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @Shog9 “Invite-in” migration is what we often practice today, with the roundabout steps of having the mods of the source site wait for a reply from the mods of the potential target site. That is indeed slow. As for resetting votes, it doesn't hurt anyone, and I have no idea what “wrong reason” you're refering to. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:36 | comment | added | Shog9 | "Invite-in" migration is a non-starter. You might as well just tell the asker to re-post - it's quicker. And resetting votes just serves to mitigate issues with bad answers being migrated at the expense of good answers being migrated - you're hurting the wrong people for the wrong reason. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:29 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @Shog9 As I wrote: “I see two major problems with migration today: that the target site doesn't get to decide, and that votes are migrated with the posts.” For the first problem, there have been several proposals such as a review queue. For the second problem, the solution is obvious. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:25 | comment | added | Shog9 | But we're getting fairly off-topic here, debating what was really a minor point. I'm not interested in changes that paper over symptoms at the cost of a worse experience for the folks involved - if you don't like this proposal, suggest a better one. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:22 | comment | added | Shog9 | If you want to be nice about it, leave a comment noting that while off-topic on the site where it sits, it could do well on [insert site here]. Build the community, not the backlog. And BTW: the argument prior to the creation of CS.SE was that CS questions were poorly-treated on SO. It's starting to sound an awful lot like you're determined to make that a reality now that a dedicated CS site exists. And that's crap. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:19 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @Shog9 Ok. I think it's a pity since it means closing them as off-topic and eventually deleting them, but it's your site. Or wait, are you refering to on-topic or off-topic questions? If you refer to my migration requests from SO to CS, I only flag questions that I, as an SO user, consider off-topic. If you disagree that they are off-topic, that's a completely different matter, which you should raise on MSO. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:18 | comment | added | Shog9 | Ok, @Gilles: stop flagging old, answered questions for migration. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:16 | comment | added | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | @Shog9 As I wrote in my very next sentence: if your problem is that on-topic questions are migrated, tell off the people who are migrating on-topic questions. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:16 | comment | added | NullUserException อ_อ Mod | @Shog9 Then the problem isn't the age of the post, it's people migrating on-topic questions. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:15 | comment | added | Shog9 | "If the question was on-topic it wouldn't be migrated." I'm afraid you lost all credibility there. I've personally reversed dozens of question migrations by well-meaning individuals who really should have found a better use for their time. It's not even rare. Resetting the voting would just be twisting the knife. | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:14 | comment | added | Jon Ericson | "Migrating votes with posts is in itself a problem, not a symptom." +1 (I hope the rest of the post is good. ;-) | |
| Oct 18, 2012 at 22:12 | history | answered | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | CC BY-SA 3.0 |