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That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions — even behind spoiler blocks — from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic. To summarize:

  • Spoilerific sites already have (and follow) rules about no spoilers in titles, which is all you see on the HNQ.

  • Spoilerific sites already have (and follow) rules about using spoiler markup in post bodies.

  • You're asking for manual use of a meta tag (against SE norms, additional work) to block the question from HNQ entirely (overkill) lest you bypass the spoiler warning and look anyway (avoidable). If we need to do anything, there's a better way than what you propose.

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that Meta-tags like this are external to their site. It's hard enoughdiscouraged across the network, so getting all users to read and follow the documentation nowdo it here for reasons (e.gexternal to their site is going to be an uphill battle. on- and off-topic lists) Instead, so it's inevitablethese sites rightly focus on things that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are formatter to them. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps theIf we decide that entirely blocking questions with spoilers is desirable, we don't need to push sites to do meta-tagging. The system could automatically filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using those spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers are already have reasons to enforceenforcing that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their Three days after titlesThe Last Jedi came out, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titleswhat are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you thinkthe odds that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter — they should doabout it for the people on theirdidn't site too. If you're concerned aboutcontain spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.after all?

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions — even behind spoiler blocks — from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter — they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. To summarize:

  • Spoilerific sites already have (and follow) rules about no spoilers in titles, which is all you see on the HNQ.

  • Spoilerific sites already have (and follow) rules about using spoiler markup in post bodies.

  • You're asking for manual use of a meta tag (against SE norms, additional work) to block the question from HNQ entirely (overkill) lest you bypass the spoiler warning and look anyway (avoidable). If we need to do anything, there's a better way than what you propose.

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. Meta-tags like this are discouraged across the network, so getting users to do it here for reasons external to their site is going to be an uphill battle. Instead, these sites rightly focus on things that matter to them. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

If we decide that entirely blocking questions with spoilers is desirable, we don't need to push sites to do meta-tagging. The system could automatically filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using those spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers are already enforcing that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list. Three days after The Last Jedi came out, what are the odds that an HNQ about it didn't contain spoilers, after all?

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions -- even behind spoiler blocks -- from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter -- they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

Related:

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions -- even behind spoiler blocks -- from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter -- they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

Related:

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions even behind spoiler blocks from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

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That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions -- even behind spoiler blocks -- from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter -- they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

Related:

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions -- even behind spoiler blocks -- from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for.

I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter -- they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

Related:

That seems like a lot of work for something that still won't solve your problem. If you're really concerned about spoilers in questions -- even behind spoiler blocks -- from certain sites, then you're better off just not visiting those sites, from Hot Network Questions or otherwise. It's the only way to be sure. With a userscript you can filter the list to exclude sites you find problematic.

Right now you're asking everybody to forgo questions that would otherwise be shared because of a concern about spoilers in some of them that can be avoided by not clicking (or hovering, if you do click). Shouldn't these sites, and the authors of their hot questions, have the same opportunity for network-wide exposure that others have?

Further, it wouldn't solve your problem. You're relying on users to learn a new guideline and take a special action (some sort of labeling) for reasons that are external to their site. It's hard enough getting all users to read and follow the documentation now (e.g. on- and off-topic lists), so it's inevitable that some won't follow this guideline and you'll still see those questions in the list. Plus you'd need a new mechanism for it; using tags for "meta" information like this is not what tags are for. Manual, extrinsic meta-methods don't work.

Perhaps the system could filter from the HNQ any question that contains a spoiler block. That at least would be an automatic method; it relies on people using spoiler blocks, but sites that care about spoilers already have reasons to enforce that. I believe the HNQ already filters out questions containing certain words in their titles, so maybe adding this check is feasible.

Barring that, I recommend that you not click those questions, or that you use a userscript to filter your own HNQ list.

But, you might ask (as somebody did in a comment), what about questions with spoilers in their titles, where "don't click/hover" isn't a solution? Spoilers in question titles are either thoughtless or mean, and those sites already have rules about not doing that. Do you think that people who won't follow those rules would follow a different rule designed to keep those questions out of HNQ? Users should definitely be careful about how they post their questions, but not just for an HNQ filter -- they should do it for the people on their site too. If you're concerned about spoilers in titles not being addressed by these sites promptly, your only safe option is to filter your own HNQ list.

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