Timeline for We're more aggressively enforcing self-moderation in chat
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| Dec 23, 2021 at 18:37 | history | edited | Undo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 13, 2018 at 2:52 | comment | added | Almo | @Braiam wow, that's really interesting. Thanks for the info! | |
| May 12, 2018 at 17:48 | comment | added | Braiam | @Almo I think that's still up to debate politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/sep/27/… | |
| May 7, 2018 at 0:24 | comment | added | Almo | @Machavity Actually, Trump cannot delete his Tweets. They are protected by some law that says presidential communications are history and have to go to the Library of Congress (or something). | |
| May 2, 2018 at 12:37 | comment | added | Catija | @Rob Yeah. That was never a question and I didn't interpret it that way. I know the chat.meta rules. :) | |
| May 2, 2018 at 12:35 | comment | added | ert | @Catija I just read my comment again, mistakenly wrote SE servers, sorry. I meant to say that we can see them for chat.stackexchange. We definitely don't see flags for chat.meta.stackexchange, though | |
| May 2, 2018 at 12:31 | comment | added | Catija | @Rob Thanks for that. I've gotten mixed answers from y'all so it's nice to be certain. I'll update my mental notes. | |
| May 2, 2018 at 7:20 | comment | added | ert | @Catija I just did some science. We (SO mods) do actually see mod flags on SE servers. However, the bubble only displays for us in SE chatrooms. | |
| May 1, 2018 at 20:51 | comment | added | Braiam | @Catija Once upon a time, I suggested to merge SO and SE chat into a single server | |
| May 1, 2018 at 19:28 | comment | added | user541686 | +1 Fantastic answer. There's another reason that chats being permanent makes little sense: comments can be deleted, and this site has spent massive efforts conveying to us that chats are ephemeral, but the moment a mod shoves the comments into chat, they become permanent, and you can't even remove your comments anymore! It's pretty darn ridiculous. Let people delete chat messages! | |
| May 1, 2018 at 1:29 | comment | added | Catija | They don't go network wide on SO. There are three chat servers. SO, SE and Meta.SE. Flags are limited to the servers. The 10 K requirements are per server (so I have Meta.SE and SE but not SO) and mod flags are limited to the mods on that server... so only CMs see mod flags on Meta.SE, only SO mods see SO, and all non-SO mods and CMs see SE. | |
| May 1, 2018 at 1:26 | comment | added | Machavity | Didn't know chat flags went Network-wide on SO. Probably true on SE, though. Owners cannot delete messages, only move them to another room. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 23:38 | comment | added | nitsua60 |
Two things: (1) the custom moderator flag goes out network-wide, so you don't have to worry about it being seen slowly. (In fact, you probably have to worry about the opposite, a quick-draw moderator stepping in from the blue and acting without full context.) (2) I feel like you missed an important option 4, or at least 3b. Instead of hoping the lurking mod notices, why not @ ping them? Or ping a room owner? Either can easily remove a message without prejudice.
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| Apr 30, 2018 at 19:21 | history | edited | Machavity | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
I can count...
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| Apr 30, 2018 at 19:09 | comment | added | Catija | @AndrasDeak Yeah, that doesn't exist in chat. We have no way to respond or create a flag history for specific users - partially because we don't have access to who flagged something unless the flag is currently active (in the case of mod flags) or if the spam/offensive flag is currently active and we're actually a mod on the site the room is parented to. Only the CMs have access to all flag history content and who flagged/validated the flags. This is something I'd love to see brought into alignment with how main site flagging works - part of my own answer here. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 19:06 | comment | added | Andras Deak -- Слава Україні | @Catija thanks for the info :) If I need anything flagged I do just that; this is mostly passive musing about the workings of chat (or the lack thereof). To me it's pretty important to know how a mod handled a flag on main. If I messed something up I want to see it get declined. If the user I suspected of foul play was innocent, I want to see the flag get handled with no further consequences. It just feels off to not be able to do that in chat. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 18:55 | comment | added | Catija | We do have a flag history for chat... it's crappy, but does exist. @AndrasDeak But you shouldn't be afraid to mod flag things... we usually handle them within a few minutes unless it's a really off hour. The bubble that announces them gets really annoying otherwise ;) Remember, the mod flags go to the entire community of mods on chat.se (~500 people) and all of the SO mods on chat.so... so, on SO, that may be somewhat slower but I'm not certain. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 18:32 | comment | added | TylerH | @AndrasDeak I'm pretty sure mods and CMs can see flag history in chat. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 18:27 | comment | added | Andras Deak -- Слава Україні | There's also no flag history in chat. I'm not even sure mods can access one. It's all broken. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | Kevin B | I'd much rather be able to effectively delete messages without moving them to another room, that way it's much easier for room owners to see what the deleted message was a response to. (plus it would be nice for room owners to be able to see deleted/edited messages in the transcript much the same way we can see them in the live chat) | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 17:54 | comment | added | Machavity | @BenjaminGruenbaum For better or for worse (you can decide which) the President of the US tells us exactly what he thinks on Twitter. But he can delete his tweets later if he wants. There's no deleting chat. That's my point. No politics here, just a well known example. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 17:43 | comment | added | Benjamin Gruenbaum | You make some good points, don't ruin it with politics. | |
| Apr 30, 2018 at 17:39 | history | answered | Machavity | CC BY-SA 3.0 |