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We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly -, there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation-moderation helps keep the site clean.

I comment. I let folks know why. I rarely see the same faces posting an on topic-topic meta post. Once someone self deleted-deleted and apologisedapologized, and I was surprised, and I hope the lad comes back with an on topic-topic question some day. At the end of the day, though, I'm not sure many of these users are actually unawareaware that their posts are off topic-topic.

Admittedly, there's a semi organised-organized group of users helping with this on tavernTavern on the metaMeta, and we do try to get rid of thisthese as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationallyoccasionally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess itsit's a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SOStack Overflow bans), and keeping the place on topic-topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out, has to deal with it. ItsIt's significantly more efficient to just do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally, I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. AfterTo moderate after a user has already posted an off topic-topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newishnew-ish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folkfolks with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folkfolks know what athis site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

I comment. I let folks know why. I rarely see the same faces posting an on topic meta post. Once someone self deleted and apologised and I was surprised and I hope the lad comes back with an on topic question some day. At the end of the day though I'm not sure many of these users are actually unaware their posts are off topic.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly, there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta-moderation helps keep the site clean.

I comment. I let folks know why. I rarely see the same faces posting an on-topic meta post. Once someone self-deleted and apologized, and I was surprised, and I hope the lad comes back with an on-topic question some day. At the end of the day, though, I'm not sure many of these users are actually aware that their posts are off-topic.

Admittedly, there's a semi-organized group of users helping with this on Tavern on the Meta, and we do try to get rid of these as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occasionally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess it's a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around Stack Overflow bans), and keeping the place on-topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out, has to deal with it. It's significantly more efficient to just do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out and letting folks know.

Personally, I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. To moderate after a user has already posted an off-topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, new-ish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folks with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folks know what this site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

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We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

I comment. I let folks know why. I rarely see the same faces posting an on topic meta post. Once someone self deleted and apologised and I was surprised and I hope the lad comes back with an on topic question some day. At the end of the day though I'm not sure many of these users are actually unaware their posts are off topic.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

I comment. I let folks know why. I rarely see the same faces posting an on topic meta post. Once someone self deleted and apologised and I was surprised and I hope the lad comes back with an on topic question some day. At the end of the day though I'm not sure many of these users are actually unaware their posts are off topic.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

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We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they hetget handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they het handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

We're doing the best with what we have. Quite frankly - there's no great way to deal with this. MSE's a bit of a tough site for folks unfamiliar with the way folks do things, but at the same time, this sort of meta moderation helps keep the site clean.

Admittedly there's a semi organised group of users helping with this on tavern on the meta, and we do try to get rid of this as soon as possible. Many of us comment (and occationally cheer when a user realises the folly of their ways). The problem with waiting is... people forget, and dealing with stuff as they come in means they get handled at all.

I guess its a matter of trying to balance between new user friendliness, what seems like obvious abuse (folks asking programming questions here to get around SO bans) and keeping the place on topic and useful.

Moderation here's a little spotty at times (sorry guys!) and the community's often stepped up to help deal with this. If we do flag, our CMs (busy as they are) or a dev who decides to help out has to deal with it. Its significantly more efficient to do it ourselves. If the folks who run/moderate the site have issues, it might be worth sounding out, and letting folks know.

Personally I'd like to see the new user template and see if it helps. After a user has posted an off topic question feels too late. I do believe that users can see their own, newish deleted question if they know where to look, but a new user might not. I'd have less sympathy for folk with SO accounts posting programming questions.

I'd also like some mechanism to let new folk know what a site is for - I proposed something like that for meta previously.

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