Timeline for Does meta have to mean murder?
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| Jul 31, 2019 at 18:01 | comment | added | This_is_NOT_a_forum | Deterrent? Yes, in the sense of wasting time. | |
| Jul 8, 2019 at 17:55 | answer | added | Monica CellioMod | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jun 27, 2019 at 2:57 | answer | added | unixandria | timeline score: 2 | |
| May 16, 2019 at 16:33 | comment | added | amWhy | I agree that downvotes serve a purpose, and some downvoting functionality should remain, but @Tinkeringbell, I think piling on excessive downvotes on questions (-10, -16, -28?), which happens far more frequently on MSE than anywhere else on the network, goes overboard, and seems to be a "pile-up" effect of "i see others think it's bad, so me too!" (The "contagion effect".) | |
| May 15, 2019 at 7:56 | comment | added | Tinkeringbell Mod | I do understand where you're coming from (I saw it too). But there's a problem with 'a bad question just wouldn't get any votes'. Also, just dropping downvotes on their own is not that much of a solution, as long as reputation loss for a downvote doesn't cancel the reputation gain from an upvote, and posts can't go below 0, on main sites that means a 0 scoring post can still gain you considerable reputation, so you'd have to get rid of reputation too, and find some other way to indicate that people are writing good content. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 7:52 | comment | added | Tinkeringbell Mod | @Kyralessa As for what all the SE sites would be like: I moderate one where awful questions (from a site quality perspective) do get upvotes, probably because of their 'entertainment value'. As for 'allow no more downvotes than upvotes': I don't want to have to write an userscript that casts my downvote on something as soon as it gets an upvote, just because I think it shouldn't have that upvote (in other words, I don't think that will work either, as people will then just wait with downvoting until they are 'allowed to'). So why scratching downvotes here might work, please not networkwide. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 7:45 | comment | added | user142148 | As a thought experiment, I wonder what Meta...heck, I wonder what all the Stack Exchange sites would be like if they had upvotes and no downvotes. A bad question just...wouldn't get any votes. Or what if there were downvotes, but a question wasn't allowed to get more downvotes than upvotes, so the worst score it could get was 0? Do we need to know the difference between a -1 question and a -50 question? Certainly it's a common theme here that people downvoting don't have to say why, but also that a downvote doesn't really explain anything. Maybe comments only would be more effective. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 7:38 | comment | added | user142148 | "I don't think these things happen because Meta is full of people who enjoy pulling others down." I wonder, though, if you might think differently if it had ever happened to you. What do you suppose people who made suggestions that got dozens of downvotes think about this? I, for one, can certainly tell you. | |
| May 15, 2019 at 2:50 | answer | added | Nicol Bolas | timeline score: 13 | |
| May 15, 2019 at 2:44 | answer | added | yagmoth555 | timeline score: 0 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 22:14 | answer | added | Dan Bron | timeline score: 7 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 18:45 | comment | added | Cyn | @SterlingArcher Well I've been mostly off Meta.SE because of this and don't post questions anymore. Now I'm just talking about it to support Monica's post. I wouldn't care about the votes if it were 1) a real Meta site (where the votes don't change your rep) and 2) if they reflected a vote on my proposal or etc. Who downvotes a bug report? And even if there was an underlying reason for the problem, it is a bug that the user isn't getting correct feedback as to why the action failed. I honestly don't need to hear from anyone else that I "did something wrong." | |
| May 14, 2019 at 18:37 | comment | added | Sterling Archer | @Cyn personally, I just learned to stop caring about the votes. It's ok to be disagreed with -- but typically being ridiculed is a form of abuse. This is just how I do things though, doesn't work for everybody. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 18:35 | comment | added | Cyn | @SterlingArcher they didn't cross that line. I really don't want to go look at it again. I did count up the downvotes (from my rep cause I can't see them directly) and it was 10 I think. Certainly it could have been a lot worse but seriously, on regular sites if someone reports something and it turns out to be a dup, people just mark it as such and move on. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 18:27 | comment | added | Sterling Archer | @Cyn downvotes are one thing, but were the ridiculing comments get flagged for abusive language? | |
| May 14, 2019 at 18:17 | comment | added | Cyn | So true. I did a bug report once and got hammered for it. Lots of down votes and ridiculed for not knowing the underlying problem. It turned out to be a duplicate (I had done a search but used the wrong keywords) so fine, but I didn't need to be treated like an idiot. Makes me very unwilling to ever report another bug (or site request) again. And so far I haven't, even when encouraged to. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 15:48 | comment | added | ꓢPArcheon | Anyway, just a side notice.... I never stated that "getting answers" was my only purpose. Often I would go to chat just for the fun of it, no answer involved. Lately, I noticed that I can have fun only in an handful of the rooms I used to visit. Forget this nitpick, but your comment seemed to assume that I am not happy with the content or the great answers we can provide on the network, where my discontent is just about having to keep seeing people begging people to be more kind... and fail. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 15:42 | comment | added | ꓢPArcheon | @MonicaCellio What I meant is that recently I feel discouraged in participating in many sites and communities over the network, not just on Meta.SE. My point is that IMHO we have a far larger problem than just a "murderous Meta" - the whole community cannot seems to just live in harmony - we are too busy blaming and attacking each other. But again, that probably just me. Didn't meant to derail your post, so I won't post an answer either. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 14:32 | comment | added | Monica Cellio Mod | @SPArchaeologist other sites aren't the only way for you to get answers to your questions, though. If you don't want to post on SO, you can find programming answers elsewhere. (Maybe not as good, but...) If you want to participate in shaping how things are done at SE, Meta.SE is your singular option. (Yeah yeah Twitter, but not what I meant.) | |
| May 14, 2019 at 12:24 | answer | added | gnat | timeline score: 15 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 8:34 | comment | added | ꓢPArcheon | Is this even just Meta? I know I actively try to avoid going to certain sites or chat room even when it would make sense to just because II feel uneasy to have to interact with some of them and their "culture". IMHO Meta.SE is not a problem, just one of the many effect of a broken community. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 6:40 | answer | added | Magisch | timeline score: 2 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 5:54 | answer | added | Shog9 | timeline score: 55 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 5:53 | answer | added | Journeyman GeekMod | timeline score: 9 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 5:44 | answer | added | reneMod | timeline score: 16 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 4:51 | answer | added | Rob | timeline score: -5 | |
| May 14, 2019 at 3:47 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | Tim Post has made an excellent response here. | |
| May 14, 2019 at 3:26 | history | asked | Monica CellioMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |