Timeline for What are the next steps we as a community should take?
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| Dec 17, 2019 at 14:51 | comment | added | April Salutes Monica C. | Just because a lot of people don't know or care about something doesn't mean that it's not worth knowing/caring about. | |
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| Dec 17, 2019 at 3:46 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Marc.2377 It is news to me that sede can tell you about the quality of content. Sure, you can create statistics about number of questions, answers, votes,... and then hope to define good metrics that tell you something about quality. And then you need to find a way to use such metrics in meaningful ways across the whole network. Even if this is possible, you need a solid background in doing such things, and a lot of time at hand. At least me, I lack both... | |
| Dec 17, 2019 at 1:30 | comment | added | This_is_NOT_a_forum | Re "SEXit": The great attractor could be Atwood's place. | |
| Dec 17, 2019 at 1:20 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading. [<http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section)].
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| Dec 16, 2019 at 21:33 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | Yo. So, do we create a trade union like entity within SE, outside SE, with SE, against SE? I thought previously that MSE would be 'just that., Emergent, just like the theoretical 'our model'? But this participation here and contributing in general continues to be quite taxing. What was it? No taxation without representation? Someone calling for an impeachment of {$the company}, for a referendum on SExit? I'll for one welcome our insectoid overlord on the beaches, fields, hills, and in the streets. We will never see splendour. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 20:28 | comment | added | Marc.2377 | Do note everyone that there's such a thing called Stack Exchange Data Explorer that allows for querying on all of these 'theoretical' assertions. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 17:10 | comment | added | Kevin B | It degrades to yahoo answers quality. it becomes a place for the blind to lead the blind, where no one cares about quality (both in terms of question/answer quality and code quality) anymore. It will certainly still serve a purpose, but that purpose will pale in comparison to what it once was. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 15:10 | comment | added | fbueckert | Well, we're all in uncharted territory here; nobody's managed to get a system to this scale and maintain the focus. It's certainly possible I could be wrong about what might happen; it's an educated guess, after all. But I'd have a hard time seeing how any site can survive if those experts can't actually find any decent questions to answer. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 14:54 | comment | added | GhostCat | @fbueckert That is a theory, not a proven fact ;-(. A) there are millions of existing questions&answers already. This means that SE Inc. will keep to attract via search results for years to come. Sure, no "new" up-to-date content, but as said: maybe years before that becomes significant B) no matter the janitor services, there will always be plenty of people asking "good enough" questions, and top contributors writing great answers. They just ignore the junk left and right. C) have fun explaining such multiple-year long term effects on average US managers. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 14:30 | comment | added | fbueckert | True, there's lots of people answering questions and don't really know what's happening here. But here's the thing: the people that clean up the sites, and care about keeping it clean, are here; that's literally why Meta exists. Lose your janitors, and it eventually becomes worse and worse, and then SO isn't the place to find programmer help anymore. To be sure, there's enough content here that it'd be an incredibly slow death, but it'd die, all the same. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 12:11 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Trilarion Sure. I am open to any other option that you think would work here. Beyond that: those that really want to get somewhere ... are working very hard on making that happen. Just not ... here any more. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 11:01 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | @GhostCat This is a bit too negative. I think you are mostly right, but without even unfounded optimism I think mankind would have gotten nowhere. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:39 | comment | added | GhostCat | And as soon as you "announce" something to users directly on stackoverflow (not MSO!) ... you are in full violation of the rules there, and your input would (rightfully) be considered off-topic, deleted, and your ID suspended if you continued to advertize a union ... in the only place the potential union members look at. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:37 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Trilarion In theory. But not practical. Because: there is no valid channel to "contact" potential union members. It is that simple. You can't send out a note to all users on stack overflow suggesting "lets create a union". You can only talk to the people that read here, and on MSO. And there we go full circle: because even those groups are not large enough, and beyond that, too heterogeneous in their goals. And of course: do you think that SE Inc. would "allow" a potential union to use SE Inc. provided "server resources" to do union work?! | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:29 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Next step is then to form a union. Good idea. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:17 | comment | added | GhostCat | @Mast stackoverflow.com/… ... sure, that list isnt complete, there are some users who go "support(s) monica", or other nick names that imply support for Monica. Even if you add all of that up, you are way below 1000 users. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:16 | comment | added | Resistance Is Futile | @Mast stackexchange.com/leagues/1/alltime/stackoverflow there is 11,455,478 users with reputation less than 200. Do you really think that most of them knows what is going on? Even if 5 millions would know... you would still have 5 millions that don't. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 9:10 | comment | added | Mast | @ResistanceIsFutile "There are millions of users that either don't know or don't care about all this." Got a source with that? | |
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| Dec 16, 2019 at 8:19 | comment | added | Resistance Is Futile | This. There are millions of users that either don't know or don't care about all this. And literally thousands new users are coming daily. There is very little we can do, if nothing at all. | |
| Dec 16, 2019 at 8:06 | history | answered | GhostCat | CC BY-SA 4.0 |