Timeline for We need to stop hoping for change in, or help from, SO Inc
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| Jan 20, 2020 at 12:16 | comment | added | user630245 | @JJforPopcornandMonica Even if the site gets taken by people aimed at making money at all cost; it took about 10 years for this to happen to SE. That's pretty impressive; if (say) Codidact remains open and community-driven for 10 years I'd say that's a win. | |
| Jan 20, 2020 at 6:40 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 20, 2020 at 2:58 | comment | added | Ask About Monica | No one thinks it's a betrayal when a mod leaves for ethical reasons. Honestly, if anything, they would be respected more. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 16:00 | comment | added | user1306322 | So even in case the non-profit management of one instance becomes corrupt, another instance of this software can be launched overnight by better people and the content be copied over, legally, as determined by the contribution legal documents all users agree to when they contribute. Right now it's not easy to imagine doing that, but several Q&A initiatives are working on making it as easy as installing and launching a Minecraft server. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 15:58 | comment | added | user1306322 | @JJforPopcornandMonica as one of the core laws, allow anyone to copy over all the content as freely as possible, making it impossible for the instance which turned evil to hoard it and lock out others from just taking it all into good hands. I suppose this is already a thing even here with the ability to copy content with proper attribution. This is what some of the upcoming alternatives are planning to do already. The second part is setting up the management in a way similar to Wikipedia which is governed by a pretty hands-off non-profit organization whose goal cannot be to maximize profits. | |
| Jan 19, 2020 at 15:39 | comment | added | JJJ | @user1306322 but what prevents that new site from being taken people aimed at making money at all cost? That's what happened here, what do you propose doing differently so that can't happen? And note that you may not be the (only) one in charge. Once money gets involved a lot of principles are watered down. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 15:42 | history | edited | Suvitruf - Andrei Apanasik | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:27 | comment | added | user1306322 | I'm pretty use the oldheads who stayed on the olden days forums still think so to this day and continue to use those old forums. Actually, no, once they saw that StackOverflow prodives the same service but much better, they all silently moved over, and will grumble about change once more, and will again move over to a better site once it is up and running :) | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:25 | comment | added | Suvitruf - Andrei Apanasik | @user1306322 creation is not the problem. The problem here is - users. Most of members don't care about all this dramas. Moreover they don't even know about them. How are you going to encourage them to switch platform? | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:24 | comment | added | user1306322 | Can you honestly say that creating a new alternative Q&A site is harder and will take a longer time than changing the SE management at this point in the site's history? I'd urge you to remember that this is why SE was created in the first place -- changing the old Q&A sites was not worth it and would have been harder. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:22 | comment | added | Suvitruf - Andrei Apanasik | @user1306322 we do. We have posted about SE problems on mane Russian IT sites, and it changed nothing. Those posts should be published on big news sites to make management stir. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:19 | comment | added | user1306322 | I don't think any of us will betray the community if we announce loud and clear where we're leaving to, and continue to do the same things we did here, somewhere else, in a better environment without corporate overlords ruling over us. | |
| Jan 18, 2020 at 14:14 | history | answered | Suvitruf - Andrei Apanasik | CC BY-SA 4.0 |