Timeline for We’re adding more user controls for cookie consent
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| Feb 15, 2023 at 21:46 | history | edited | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 24, 2022 at 16:31 | history | edited | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Corrected Marko Saric's name; added Stack Overflow Blog screenshot.
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| Sep 24, 2022 at 16:26 | history | edited | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Corrected Marko Saric's name; added Stack Overflow Blog screenshot.
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| Apr 11, 2022 at 16:27 | history | edited | Zombo | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 22, 2021 at 7:36 | comment | added | Vladimir F Героям слава | It is just the basic button deception SO should be ashamed of. But we are, sadly, getting used to it. That does not ske it less shameful. | |
| May 19, 2021 at 22:24 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @AaronShekey I'm not the only one who thinks this is no good. See this recent Hacker News thread and Ctrl+F for “Stack Overflow”. This one in particular seems worthy of note. | |
| Apr 14, 2021 at 23:36 | comment | added | Basic | @Des Where's the "clear path" to saying no to everything. It's okay, I really don't want to customise, I want to decline. Or to put it another way not opt-in. Where is the "I'm not interested" button? That's not a clear path is it? | |
| Apr 8, 2021 at 20:59 | comment | added | hunter | @Des this does not appear to have been fixed yet. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 13:24 | comment | added | htmlcoderexe | @AaronShekey as a user who's been practically TRAINED by dark patterns to click the less prominent button as being what I usually want, I did nearly click the "wrong" button on that dialogue on a few sites already - especially since first it follows the classical dark pattern of having the bright button do what I don't want and then upon clicking the other button, getting two buttons with the styles implying the opposite of what I just clicked. The Accept all button has literally the opposite styling. For me this is actually sneakier than the usual "look for the smallest button" stuff | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 6:34 | history | edited | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Box blocks. Changed my mind after using it for a bit.
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| Feb 28, 2021 at 19:19 | history | edited | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added new image.
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| Feb 18, 2021 at 12:11 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @dbc But as Aaron pointed out, the other way around would also be problematic. The fundamental design would need to be changed. (You have to keep in mind not only people's expectations for how normal UI works, and SE UI works, but also GDPR consent UI; I don't envy the designers' jobs.) | |
| Feb 17, 2021 at 19:15 | comment | added | dbc | @Des - flopping the colors between the outer panel and the inner panel ("Accept all cookies" and "Confirm My Choices" having one color, "Customize settings" and "Accept all cookies" having the other) looks to be a pretty clearcut example of "Privacy Zuckering": You are tricked into publicly sharing more information about yourself than you really intended to. | |
| Feb 5, 2021 at 22:00 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | I'm surprised that the toggle at the top was confusing. It seems to be fairly standard on other sites, and it uses familiar GUI table idioms (like those in Excel, or the Windows Explorer details view, or Finder, or Wikipedia). | |
| Feb 5, 2021 at 21:51 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @AaronShekey That would've been a dark pattern, you're right. However, doing the opposite of the previous dark pattern is also confusing – so it must be a false choice. I think removing the “Accept all cookies” button on the bottom bar would make it okay to have in the box, but why do you make the user choose whether to “accept all cookies” twice? There's the strongest argument for having the one in the box, I think, since the one outside the box is only there for convenience but “I pressed the most convenient button” probably isn't grounds for consent anyway (though IANAL). | |
| Feb 5, 2021 at 19:44 | comment | added | Aaron Shekey StaffMod |
To further clarify, if we were to do Accept all cookies as the primary, with Confirm my choices and then Cancel, my fear was that would be considered a dark pattern. It's a bit of a tight rope. @wizzwizz4 We had some mockups with a toggle while removing the Accept all cookies button but it was also mildly confusing in early tests.
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| Feb 5, 2021 at 19:41 | comment | added | Aaron Shekey StaffMod | I designed this modal's primary action to be "Confirm my choices" since the user had clicked "Customize settings" to show it. I didn't want users who wanted to customize their experience to feel like we opened this modal only to subtly push for users to "Accept all cookies". That was my rationale for the button order, anyway. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 23:02 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @Des Could you also revisit having an “accept all” in the box that comes up? A “toggle all” switch at the top would be better. I know it probably seems to SE like it's better for users to accept everything, but your design should always be from the “make it easy for users to choose” point of view. No “they'll probably choose this, so make it a default option” type things; they're hard to do in a way that actually ends up with something that enables the majority of your users to give informed consent. (I'd argue that no “accept all” button is good, but I'm probably wrong there.) | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 22:34 | comment | added | Des StaffMod | Our intention is not to introduce a dark pattern – quite the opposite. We reviewed several comps and wanted to ensure there is a clear path to both accepting all and customizing settings. I’m passing this feedback to our design team to revisit button styling. As for a path back to cookie settings, there is a link available in the footer to quickly access and update your preferences. | |
| Jan 12, 2021 at 17:57 | comment | added | User that hates AI | Yup. GDPR says (basically) that rejecting (“not approving”!) cookies must not be harder than approving them. Nudging and dark patterns like this generally do not lead to consent. | |
| Jan 11, 2021 at 22:10 | history | answered | wizzwizz4 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |