Timeline for Should trusted close/reopen voters and reviewers have their votes weighted more than others'?
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| Feb 2, 2022 at 11:25 | comment | added | Braiam | Which caused me no lack of frustration due people unhelpfully closing as duplicate of stuff that will not help, at all. So, of course I want other reasons to have the gold badge behavior applied because I've seen several times how badly the community closes stuff it doesn't know about. | |
| Feb 2, 2022 at 11:23 | comment | added | Braiam | Adrian offers some examples that are easily refutable @Catija, identifying non-programming question in a site doesn't need specific knowledge about the non-programming topic, only failing to identify the question as a programming is enough. (The question isn't "what is this?" but "is this programming?"). And that's not the only close reason that Adrian fails to correctly argue: in unclear I'm more than capable of knowing what an apt-get question lacks if I know about it, not if I'm not knowledgeable which I avoid to do in cases where I know I don't know enough about the topic. | |
| Feb 2, 2022 at 11:18 | comment | added | Braiam | "I am arguing that the proposed "half-hammer" would be better based on criteria more general than specific tag expertise" yet you don't explain why it's better: what is the indicator that would make this better compared to the flat behavior of the gold hammer? That is what I'm getting at @Catija, Adrian focuses in singing praises for it, but it doesn't answer the simple question: it's better at doing what and why should that be our yard stick? | |
| Feb 2, 2022 at 5:33 | comment | added | Catija Staff | @Braiam I'm slightly confused at your comment here - like Adrian, I see examples in this answer that make perfect sense. How can anyone be an expert in a tag that's off-topic? I also find it slightly amusing that you ask for supporting evidence here and yet your own answer has none of its own and doesn't even refute or even recognize the arguments in the question that clearly explain why I don't think the duplicate hammer is a good fit here. | |
| Feb 2, 2022 at 1:00 | comment | added | Adrian Mole | @Braiam I am not here addressing (or even attempting to address) the issue of whether or not the gold hammer should be extended to all close reasons (and I am aware of your strong desire that it should be); rather, I am arguing that the proposed "half-hammer" (or 2/3 or 3/5 hammer) would be better based on criteria more general than specific tag expertise. | |
| Feb 2, 2022 at 0:18 | comment | added | Adrian Mole | @Braiam I was under the impression that I had been specific: both for why tag-specific expertise is required for duplicate closure and why it is not appropriate for off-topic questions. But maybe I misread my post? | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 23:53 | comment | added | Braiam | "Linking this extra weight to tag-specific expertise doesn't make much sense" how so? If you are going to argue that, give specific examples as of why, not just "it doesn't make sense" because as far I know, closing as duplicate is still closing. So, it actually makes no sense that only duplicates has this behavior instead of all close reasons. | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 23:08 | comment | added | TylerH | @AdrianMole Sure, and I think that a full-blown site suspension is appropriate there; I wish moderators used it more often for gold hammer abuse. | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 23:08 | comment | added | Adrian Mole | @TylerH I've already heard moderators concerns about abuse of the gold hammer: there's no way for them to remove that privilege other than a full-blown site suspension. | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 23:07 | comment | added | TylerH | I would think moderators would be just warn or suspend users like they do for other site abuse/infractions. At most, I think suspension from the review queue, specifically, would be plenty. | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 21:39 | comment | added | Catija Staff | 2. Yeah. It's still one vote. :) | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 21:36 | comment | added | Catija Staff | 1. This is a concern that I have. I was considering that we might tie it to review suspensions at minimum. So a moderator could remove the ability by suspending them... they're not perfectly connected but it'd remove the perk and reviews without entirely removing the vote to close privilege. At some point we'd like to break from using rep for privileges in more ways but we haven't moved that way yet. We could also create a tool for mods to remove the privilege separately from using review suspensions. so we have options. | |
| Feb 1, 2022 at 20:27 | history | answered | Adrian Mole | CC BY-SA 4.0 |