Timeline for Price of AI floodgates inaction
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| Jun 22, 2023 at 11:13 | history | edited | This_is_NOT_a_forum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading [<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/firsthand#Adjective> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/click-through#Noun>]. Expanded. Added some context (MSE is ambigious as it is also the abbr. for this very site).
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| S Jun 21, 2023 at 22:05 | history | bounty ended | gnat | ||
| S Jun 21, 2023 at 22:05 | history | notice removed | gnat | ||
| Jun 21, 2023 at 3:45 | comment | added | user13267 | I'm not looking for any hard numbers. I have seen some people here who claim they have seen 1000's of GPT non-sense gone unchecked, and some who say they recognize GPT generated posts just by looking because they have seen that many. If GPT nonsense is this rampant I would assume I should be able to see many with just a casual browse of the site. If they are indeed getting deleted before a casual user (who cannot view deleted posts) even encounters them, then my layman understanding is that the moderation system of the site is working | |
| Jun 21, 2023 at 3:45 | comment | added | dxiv | @user13267 Sorry, but I wholly disagree. Simple fact is that GPT posts continue to waste the time and patience of participating users, to the detriment of good-faith questions and answers. And SE's attempt to pretend the problem does not exist only compounds the aggravation. If what you are looking for is hard numbers and specific examples, maybe asking on a site meta could give you more satisfying answers from the mods directly, preferably a site where you have the rep to view deleted posts. | |
| Jun 21, 2023 at 3:22 | comment | added | user13267 | well, personally if "users who are unaware of or unconvinced by the strike continue to downvote and close the obvious nonsense." is actually happening (even with some users on strike), I'd say the system in-place at the site is working | |
| Jun 21, 2023 at 3:17 | comment | added | dxiv | @user13267 Yours is a good question, to which I do not have a good answer. Reason is that GPT posts tend to not last long on MSE. Even after mods' strike started, users who are unaware of or unconvinced by the strike continue to downvote and close the obvious nonsense. There is a list of 10 such posts here, and there is another one that I linked here, but they all point to posts that got deleted since, thus only visible to users with 10k+ rep on MSE, which you do not appear to have. | |
| Jun 21, 2023 at 2:50 | comment | added | user13267 | Could you please post a link to some of this "backlog of GPT nonsense"? Or just from Math SE, where your "first hand experience comes from", where AI nonsense has been upvoted/accepted and nothing been done about it? Is this "nothing being done" owing to strike or was it this way regardless? Are there links to some examples of this from before strike? | |
| S Jun 15, 2023 at 21:16 | history | bounty started | gnat | ||
| S Jun 15, 2023 at 21:16 | history | notice added | gnat | Authoritative reference needed | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 22:03 | comment | added | Kevin B | Upon opening the bounty tab, my favorite place to find low quality answers, the question at the top of the list had a new gpt answer from a user who had posted 6 in the past 8 hours | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 21:59 | comment | added | Dan Mašek | @Kaia OK, I understand, thank you for clearing that up. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 21:51 | comment | added | Kaia | @Dan Mašek I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I was trying to see how many GPT answers were getting posted. After posting, i skipped through the first-answer review queue and found a couple, so they're definitely there if you go looking | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 14:48 | comment | added | Dan Mašek | @Kaia The way that question is phrased, what exactly are you trying to insinuate? | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 13:58 | comment | added | Bryan Krause | @Trilarion Importantly, volume is influenced by moderation. If those posts are being removed, the people posting them have less incentive to continue doing so. If not, the quantity will increase. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 10:41 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | The price also depends on the volume. On small stackexchanges with only say <10 new questions every day, it might be possible to only curate for quality and accept AI content if suitable. For SO, with the much, much higher numbers and where everyone thinks he/she is a programmer or could be one, it's different. But it definitely depends on the topic and size of the community. That's why there isn't a network wide policy on AI generated ban. That's why the price will be a bit different everywhere. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 10:29 | comment | added | Cody Gray | Yes, large quantities, just like before the strike, @Kaia. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:51 | history | edited | tripleee | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:33 | comment | added | dxiv | @Kaia Yes, a few. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:27 | history | edited | dxiv | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:18 | comment | added | F1Krazy | @Kaia I saw someone post a bunch of very blatant, very incorrect ones on Puzzling.SE yesterday. I downvoted and flagged them and all but one have since been deleted. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:15 | comment | added | Kaia | has anybody actually seen any GPT answers since the mod strike started. I haven't yet. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 8:03 | history | edited | tripleee | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Turn this into an actual question
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| Jun 7, 2023 at 7:58 | answer | added | Levente | timeline score: 66 | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 7:36 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | @FrédéricHamidi no. They simply don't see more than few days or weeks ahead. | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 7:28 | comment | added | Frédéric Hamidi | That is one of the more interesting issues about the company's current stance -- by allowing "AI"-generated content on SO, they mechanically disqualify the site from participating in further "AI" training. Could it possibly be intentional? | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 7:23 | comment | added | Foo | The CEO would do well to remember that it is ChatGPT that could not exist without Stack Overflow, and not the other way around | |
| Jun 7, 2023 at 7:08 | history | asked | dxiv | CC BY-SA 4.0 |