Timeline for Remove the 25% requirement from the "Unsung Hero" gold badge
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| Aug 26, 2010 at 7:25 | history | edited | Daniel Vassallo | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Jul 13, 2010 at 8:55 | comment | added | Amarghosh | @Andy agree with that. Also, 5/25 isn't hard to get - may be no one upvoted because it wasn't worth it - it accidentally solved OP's problem and he accepted it. That's why I wanted the bar to be high enough. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 8:30 | comment | added | Andy E | The main problem I have is that, on the pages of users who've earned the badge I click on their 0 score accepted answers and they're single liners or links. A true unsung hero is someone who puts a lot of effort in, writing detailed, quality answers and getting no recognition for it. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 8:29 | comment | added | Andy E | @Amarghosh: but that's even more of a point to retroactively apply the badge as if it were implemented from the start. I bet there's a lot of 10k+ users that weren't appreciated in their early days (I don't think I'm one of those people, btw). Also, I think the badge has missed its mark - it was intended to reward continuous posting in low-vote yielding tags, but it's ended up rewarding answers in popular tags that didn't deserve upvoting. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 7:52 | comment | added | Amarghosh | @Andy Also, if there is no mechanism to appreciate those people, some of those would-be-first-pagers might leave SO feeling that SO is a place that appreciate only veterans. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 7:50 | comment | added | Amarghosh | @Andy The point is that these badges are not to be fought and won - they're bestowed as a not of appreciation-cum-consolation to the unfortunate fellows who happen to have a lot of zero-accepted answers. If they make it to the first page after a while and someone sees that they have an unsung-hero badge they would just assume that this guy wasn't appreciated enough in his early days - it doesn't make others on the same page any lesser reputed. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 7:15 | comment | added | Andy E | @Amarghosh, Having a badge that you can only earn as a new user to the site doesn't seem right. It certainly wouldn't seem very fair to the user that got his 50th zero-score accepted answer at 5001 rep. These users will eventually become 10k users too, and might even make it to the first page, which is what everyone seems to be forgetting. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 3:54 | comment | added | Amarghosh | Though he went unappreciated 224 times, he was appreciated 1278 times and he is on the first page of users. As I understand this badge is kind of a consolation badge that 10k folks shouldn't be aspiring for. As already suggested, 10 is too low for a gold badge - you need to edit 600 entries or get 100 votes for some of the other golden badges; the cut off should be minimum 50 and there should be an upper rep limit too. Something like 50 zero-scored-accepted answers while the rep is still below 5000 @waffles | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 1:25 | comment | added | waffles | @Daniel, yes that is the intention, its a consolation badge. I am totally for adding a badge for participating in less popular tags that higher rep users can achieve but that was not the intention here. | |
| Jul 13, 2010 at 0:10 | comment | added | Daniel Vassallo | @waffles: Hans' bravery was unrecognized 224 times. It's true that he was recognized in another 1278 occasions, but those 224 zero-score answers are impressive. Can't we say that he was an unsung hero on 224 occasions? He actively solved 224 unpopular problems... I always interpreted the original proposal as to count the frequency of unrecognized effort, and not the ratio of unrecognized to recognized. Otherwise, this badge risks to become just a "consolation badge". Or was that the intention? | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 23:22 | comment | added | waffles | ???????? How is Marc, bobince, Hans or Pekka "a person whose bravery is unknown or unacknowledged" ???????? | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 21:26 | history | edited | Andreas Bonini | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Jul 12, 2010 at 16:59 | history | edited | Daniel Vassallo | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Jul 12, 2010 at 16:19 | comment | added | Andy E | @Jeff: "poor" doesn't necessarily mean incorrect. Maybe you haven't read the thread thoroughly enough to see the legitimate complaints. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 16:16 | comment | added | Jeff Atwood | @andye er.. by posting "mostly poor" answers that get accepted? I think what I'm hearing is mostly sour grapes at this point, not legitimate arguments. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 15:32 | comment | added | Andy E | @Jeff: that's not relevant to the arguments people are making against the rules of the badge. Addicted new users spending all day, every day on SO could attain the badge just by posting mostly poor answers in popular tags. Some users could obtain the badge on their 40th accepted answer. It looks like the original idea most people had of the badge, which was to reward participation in tags that yield few votes, seems to have been warped during the implementation. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 14:47 | comment | added | Jeff Atwood | @devinb "the goal isn’t to be on Stack Overflow, but to generally do things that make you a better programmer. While that certainly includes the fractional time slices of questions and answers that programmers so generously contribute, it also means doing your job, and writing code! To the extent that Stack Overflow itself becomes the goal, we are failing you." blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/10/podcast-72 | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:54 | comment | added | Daniel Vassallo | @VonC: Good point... In fact, when answering questions on non-popular topics from new users, it's very often that the questions are accepted with zero score... But wasn't the intention of this badge to motivate efforts such as these? | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:50 | comment | added | VonC | @Daniel, @devinb: Errr... I agree? ;) Except it is not like the OP doesn't want to recognize anyone's bravery. They actually can't. See stackoverflow.com/questions/3223922/…: nobody look at it (no upvote) and the OP has only 8 rep: no upvote possible. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:50 | history | edited | Daniel Vassallo | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:31 | comment | added | devinb | @Jeff. Why should we EVER EVER punish someone for contributing TOO STRONGLY to StackOverflow? That doesn't make any sense. We want to encourage users to look at low popularity tags. ALL users, not just the ones who aren't very good to start with. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:24 | comment | added | Daniel Vassallo | @random: Their bravery was unrecognized over 100 times. Doesn't that still qualify as unsung? | |
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| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:22 | comment | added | random Mod | Is this the equivalent of vuvuzelas? @jef | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:21 | comment | added | Jeff Atwood | Yes but that is just because they have thousands of answers! | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:18 | comment | added | random Mod | Unsung means they shouldn't be names you're familiar with. Most of those names are very familiar/visible. | |
| Jul 12, 2010 at 13:16 | history | answered | Daniel Vassallo | CC BY-SA 2.5 |