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What is the reason why I get -70 of Serial upvoting reversed on Stack Overflow, -70 of doing what? I read the document

http://meta.Stackoverflow.com/questions/123319/upcoming-reputation-history-changes

But I want to know which why in details why I get -70. Come on this is crazy

Anyone?

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    (From your profile) "alright this is crap see ya stackoverflow ..." - Ragequit!
    – Josh Darnell
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:26
  • yeah i think they created a bug NOT fixing one ...
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:28
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    Don't blame the system, it works just fine. Blame the person who randomly upvoted your answers several times a minute.
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:30
  • Well @Bart I don't know this person. ...
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:31
  • I'm not suggesting you make a house call. Only Jeff made those. ;)
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:34
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    This issue is unrelated to the change in the rep system. The anti serial upvoting system has been in place for a long time. The visualization of the change probably has improved a bit, but you would have lost the rep either way.
    – CodesInChaos
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:45
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    So, is aki your sockpuppet or your friend?
    – user1228
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 14:51
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    (From aki's profile) "astalavista everybody, it was a pleasure to accept your answers, i had great time on stack overflow but this is the end of the road for me!" - the sock is ragequitting too. Good catch @Won't
    – Josh Darnell
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 15:32
  • the only problem here is that you are now being notified of the adjustment.
    – JNK
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:18
  • everybody: AKI WAS my friend, notice the WAS here, he is not here anymore with us
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:24
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    Seems aki has received quite some serial upvotes as well. Jan 17th for example....
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:26
  • so there's a law againts voting up your friends?
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:38
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    Yes, if you are mutually upvoting each other over and over again in a short span of time merely because you are friends, surely that's a problem. If you occasionally happen to stumble upon a question your friend has correctly answered and you upvote it for being a good answer, that's no problem.
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:43
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    @rcs20 If you go over their answers and upvote them, because you're their friend, then that's abuse. If you come across some of their answers and vote them up because they're good, then that's perfectly fine. I often vote up eric's answers on SO, because he consistently posts great answers, and the system hasn't complained yet. And it hasn't complained about me voting down Jeff(because he's the one who defends stupid policies) on meta quite often either.
    – CodesInChaos
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:44
  • wow I thought up voting friends was legal no matter the time frame, of course i up vote because they are good and i sometimes also vote down as well until they change their answer/question then i remove my vote down...
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 16:47

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It looks like this was serial upvoting to me. Here's the vote you have recently received:

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That's 7 upvotes you received within 60 seconds. That's an average of 1 vote every 8.5741428 seconds. I am not a mod on SO so I can't see the details, but if all those votes were from a single user, then that's serial upvoting and those votes are not valid. The system was correcting that.

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    Looks like the 5 votes above that should have been included as well so the OP is lucky it is not 95.
    – Martin Smith
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:20
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    ...nevermind the question upvotes above it. In fact, looking through previous days, there seems to be a lot of serial upvoting going on unless the times are inaccurate...
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:21
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    This is not about you voting up various answers. This is about you receiving upvotes.
    – Bart
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:23
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    well then, it's worse .. how am I supose to control what/how people votes? I get punish because people UP vote me?
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:27
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    @rcs20 - You don't get punished. It just undoes the dubious votes.
    – Martin Smith
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:28
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    No @rcs20, you didn't get punished at all. Someone else tried to abuse the system and the system said "no"
    – The Unhandled Exception
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:28
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    Looks like the system didn't work well. IMO the 5 upvotes on questions should have been reversed too. And your Feb 6, Feb 20 and Feb 21 votes look strange too.
    – CodesInChaos
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:29
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    well -70 is good then? come on people who likes to get negative "adjustments" because the system say "no" ... am i missing something here?
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:30
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    @rcs20 The system invalidated some upvotes you received because it thinks they are fraudulent. It doesn't really matter if you just have a big fan, or if was real fraud. The votes are invalid in either case.
    – CodesInChaos
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:42
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    How is it being punished? I'm glad Stack has these safeguards in place to make sure that someone can't serial up or downvote. It improves the honesty and quality of the system.
    – seanbreeden
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:48
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    I'm a mod and I can't see the details either. Moderators don't have access to vote data.
    – casperOne Mod
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:52
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    @casper but you can see the suspicious vote patterns tool
    – The Unhandled Exception
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 14:10
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    @TheUnhandledException Yes, but note the statement was about "details", the suspicious vote patterns tool shows very high-level information. We can't see information on the individual vote level.
    – casperOne Mod
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 14:11
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    @casperOne sorry if I led others to believe you could. Voting details are anonymous. I am a mod on Cog Sci and so I know what the suspicious vote patterns tool shows. Specifically when I said "I am not a mod on SO so I can't see the details" what I meant by "details" was "were all these votes from the same user. Which if they were it would have triggered a notification in the suspicious vote patterns tool... right? (Not sure because the only thing suspicious about the votes on CogSci is how few we have :-p )
    – The Unhandled Exception
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 14:25
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    Exactly @hitesh. The system is preventing users from voting on too many of a specific user's questions/answers, either up or down. It's an abuse prevention mechanism designed to protect a malicious user from downvoting all your questions, and to prevent someone artificially boosting your rep by upvoting all your content. Always vote for the post, not the author
    – The Unhandled Exception
    Commented May 23, 2014 at 4:46
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Looking at your profile, the system didn't even reverse most of the serial upvoting you received. You probably should have lost >300 rep.

yesterday
+5 12:25 upvote php recursive folder readdir vs find performance
+5 12:24 upvote mysql separating tables
+5 12:24 upvote What are the differences between these query JOIN types and are there any caveats?
+5 12:24 upvote CSS pseudo-code is not recognised by jQuery
+5 12:24 upvote css does not work in chrome (linux and windows)
+10 12:23 upvote mod_geoIP installation help?
+10 12:23 upvote Move .htaccess content into vhost, for performance
+10 12:23 upvote SEO for PHP URLs?
+10 12:23 upvote Rewrite rule for Apache not finding URL?
+10 12:23 upvote apache .htaccess rule with dynamic pages (php) performance
+10 12:23 upvote append path directory to url using htaccess
+10 12:23 upvote Detecting colors for an Image using PHP

Feb 21
+10 15:43 upvote Move .htaccess content into vhost, for performance
+20 15:42 upvote Detecting colors for an Image using PHP
+10 15:42 upvote CSS pseudo-code is not recognised by jQuery
+10 15:41 upvote Rewrite rule for Apache not finding URL?
+10 15:41 upvote apache .htaccess rule with dynamic pages (php) performance
+10 15:41 upvote append path directory to url using htaccess
+10 15:41 upvote css does not work in chrome (linux and windows)
+10 15:40 upvote What are the differences between these query JOIN types and are
there any caveats? +10 15:39 upvote mysql separating tables
+10 15:39 upvote SEO for PHP URLs?

Feb 20
+5 11:39 upvote mysql separating tables
+5 11:39 upvote What are the differences between these query JOIN types and are there any caveats?
+5 11:39 upvote CSS pseudo-code is not recognised by jQuery
+5 11:38 upvote php recursive folder readdir vs find performance
+10 11:38 upvote mod_geoIP installation help?
+10 11:38 upvote SEO for PHP URLs?
+10 11:38 upvote Rewrite rule for Apache not finding URL?
+10 11:38 upvote apache .htaccess rule with dynamic pages (php) performance

Feb 6
+5 01:38 upvote What are the differences between these query JOIN types and are there any caveats?
+5 01:38 upvote php recursive folder readdir vs find performance
+10 01:38 upvote Move .htaccess content into vhost, for performance
+10 01:38 upvote Rewrite rule for Apache not finding URL?
+10 01:38 upvote mod_geoIP installation help?
+10 01:37 upvote SEO for PHP URLs?
+10 01:37 upvote Detecting colors for an Image using PHP
+5 01:37 upvote mysql separating tables

Some more votes for you look a bit strange too, but less blatant, so I'm not sure how many of those are abuse.

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  • so the system has bugs then?
    – rcs20
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:44
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    It's a heuristic, and a heuristic can't be perfect. In your case it probably erred on the side of being too generous.
    – CodesInChaos
    Commented Mar 2, 2012 at 13:46
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I just had this happen to me, too. Yesterday, someone voted me 100+ points in about a minute. Today, about half of that was axed. I think users who respond negatively to points being taken away somehow are thinking that the points being taken away is a bad reflection on the user him or herself, which leads to negative feelings and a negative response.

Really, though, the points are being taken away because of the dubious actions of someone else. At least some of the points should never have been there--another person put them there in a dubious way. Focus not on the fact that points were taken away from you, but that the dubious actions of someone else were at least partially corrected.

This should not be taken personally, unless you were involved in collaborating with someone to rig getting a bunch of points for yourself. Then you should take it personally: your hard work of scamming the system just got undone. Bummer.

But otherwise, you had nothing to do with this, someone else was screwing around and that was fixed.

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  • +1 for an insightful reflection on the psychological impact of the notification.
    – JBCP
    Commented Jan 30, 2014 at 15:59
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    It's as though you never received the upvotes to begin with - they are not real, so when they go - you aren't really losing anything you never technically gained to begin with.
    – UncaughtTypeError
    Commented Nov 14, 2017 at 20:42

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