Well we got Jon's question answered on podcast 65. So +1 for us (and Jon)

What would you like to see discussed on Podcast #66?

Please post only one topic per user and look down the list and vote up things you'd like to see. You can be as detailed as you wish.

The previous podcast discussion is there to steal revise past ideas.

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  • Whoops sorry, forgot CW :( – Ólafur Waage Aug 13 '09 at 17:38
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    LINK TO THE LAST ONE, MAN – Welbog Aug 13 '09 at 17:40

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Either on this podcast or perhaps on the one after Sept 1, but how about an interview with the FogCreek dev working on StackExchange.

I'd be interesting in

  • What are some of the challenges working on the SO codebase, and making that codebase into an easy to administer (for general users) platform

  • His perspective on the MVC framework and other technology's involved, would he have done anything different?

  • How StackExchange and the StackOverflow team are merging the ongoing updates

  • What he'd (personally) like to see in the SO engine in the future

  • [sarcasm] What it's really like to work for Joel (and is Jeff's code any good) [/sarcasm]

  • I've actually heard that the code is very good. Haven't seen any though. – Ólafur Waage Aug 24 '09 at 17:46
  • @Olafur, I meant that point as a bit sarcastic, I have edited to include the appropriate sarcasm tags – Nathan Koop Aug 24 '09 at 19:08
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    our code is really bad IMO. – Jeff Atwood Aug 25 '09 at 12:40
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    +1 for this - I'd like in particular to hear about the policies and allowed or expected uses of stackexchange In fact anything about stackexchange would be good - there's not a lot of discussion about it (from the people who know that is - not the idle speculation of the rest of us in meta) anywhere – Rhubarb Aug 25 '09 at 14:03
  • you guys haven't figured out who the SE dev is? I mentioned on the podcast that he was a 10k+ rep SO user, along with his first name. That's all the hints I'm giving. :) – Jeff Atwood Aug 25 '09 at 14:07
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    Dev is stackoverflow.com/users/2603/aaron-maenpaa, at the time that I posted I didn't feel like going through the posts to find it, but since you threw down the gauntlet – Nathan Koop Aug 25 '09 at 14:29
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    Jeff's being humble. The code is very code. – Michael Pryor Aug 25 '09 at 20:40
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    @Michael, the code is very code? ;-) – Nathan Koop Aug 26 '09 at 16:08
  • Oops. The code is very good! – Michael Pryor Aug 27 '09 at 22:24
  • Another question for Aaron: when will September 1rst actually be this year? – malach Sep 1 '09 at 11:03

It sounds like Joel's going to be away, so potentially the next podcast could be quite a while away.

However, I don't see why Jeff shouldn't record a podcast with a guest instead of Joel... even if they only manage a half hour show instead of the full hour, I'm sure it would still be well worth listening too.

And yes, I'd love to go on the podcast some time... unless the mysterious "lost" email was because Jeff and Joel decided they couldn't stand the sound of my voice ;) There are plenty of other more interesting people though...

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    I would have posted an url to the recording in a comment to your question. That way you don't have to worry about it getting lost in the email. – Brad Gilbert Aug 14 '09 at 19:03
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    @Brad: I didn't expect it to get lost though - it's email, which isn't exactly unreliable these days. Next time though :) – Jon Skeet Aug 14 '09 at 19:16
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    I find it hard to believe there are more interesting people than Jon Skeet. – David Basarab Aug 19 '09 at 20:44
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    I find it hard to believe that people are so infatuated with Jon. (no offense Jon) – jjnguy Aug 25 '09 at 17:48
  • Looks like it's going to be 2 weeks. blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/08/… – Brad Gilbert Aug 25 '09 at 19:00
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    @jjnguy: You think you find it hard to believe. Imagine how I feel, from the perspective of knowing how ordinary I am. Things may change after the London DevDay. – Jon Skeet Aug 26 '09 at 7:47
  • Great idea ... nice of Jon to offer. But one thing I'd definitely like to hear is Jon's opinion on everybody's infatuation with him. It's got to be wierd. Has he had any stalkers yet? – John MacIntyre Aug 26 '09 at 20:46

I would like to hear how Jeff (and his team) Get Things Done! He just seems to wear so many hats, do so many things, developing, sysadmin, blogger, moderating the sites, avid twitter, plus he seems to be reading a million blogs, podcasts, youtube videos a day!

And on top of that has a baby!

I would like to know how he plans his day and deals with all these different tasks.

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    recommendation: do not have a baby. – Jeff Atwood Aug 25 '09 at 14:09
  • @Jeff, As our sons were born a couple of hours apart, I to would like to hear how you getting all this done. – Rob Allen Aug 25 '09 at 15:34
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    Yeah, I find myself thinking "What would Jeff Atwood be doing?" whenever I find a free moment. And when I read though his twitter feed I think "Well, I guess he would be twittering!" But seriously, how many hours a day does Jeff "work"? How much is spent on thinking about what to code, coding, twittering, blogging, podcasting, twittering, etc? – tooshel Aug 25 '09 at 16:48
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    Are weekends strict family time? – Russ Cam Aug 25 '09 at 22:58
  • Sorry for the derail, but I want to make sure not to make this mistake, could you tell me How is babby formed????? – Brian Aug 27 '09 at 1:25
  • @Brian I'm sure there is a Forking Process joke here somewhere... – Decio Lira Aug 27 '09 at 1:59

Since you rag on PHP every freakin week, why not invite a PHP enthusiast, like:

  • Andrei Zmievski, PHP contributor, former Digg employee twitter
  • Matthew Weier O'Phinney, Project Lead for the Zend Framework, Zend Corp employee twitter blog
  • Rasmus Lerdorf, PHP contributor
  • Anyone listed here: http://www.php.net/credits.php

I think a dialog would be much more interesting than the typical one sided rants.

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    I like the idea of something about PHP too . . . get a different opinion in there and maybe change the way we think. I happen to like PHP but I like C# too (and even VBScript . . . they all have a place in my heart!). – tooshel Aug 25 '09 at 15:04
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    I heart this idea so much I would upvote it ten times if I could. – JSBձոգչ Aug 25 '09 at 15:38
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    Pish, a PHP fan would say that! – jjnguy Aug 25 '09 at 23:54
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    I don't know if the sounds of a barfight would work all that well on a podcast. Maybe video it? – bananakata Aug 26 '09 at 19:43

Interview David Smalley and/or Paul Farnell from:

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(source: doctype.com)

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    You have an upvote from me in spirit - I have to wait a few hours before I can actually upvote though. – Kyle Cronin Aug 13 '09 at 18:14

Have Jon Skeet sit in for Joel.


Future plans of the League of Justice. Also, any world domination-related activities that they may contain.

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    And what websites would be in the League of Injustice? – Sam Hasler Aug 13 '09 at 22:01
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    the hyphen site – Jake McGraw Aug 25 '09 at 15:18
  • @jakemcgraw: isn't that an arch enemy? – perbert Aug 26 '09 at 18:42

I would like to see Jeff get together all the Stack Overflow Associates to talk about what it is like for in the past year and now having 4 sites running the same code.


Jeff's other significant half, I'm sure she would have some great stories to tell!

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    Scott Hanselman did that once. It was a decent show. – Rob Allen Aug 25 '09 at 15:27
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    Come on, give the guy some privacy. He has a family, that's about as much as we should know. – Tadeusz A. Kadłubowski Aug 25 '09 at 18:53

Invite your mother for a 10 minute chat, Jeff. What is it I do again, Mom?


After reading this post and realising that we actually have a blind-programmer tag and two confirmed blind users on StackOverflow, one with 6000+ reputation already, I would like to know how and what has been done to make the site more accessible for these users, and although a minority how Jeff and Joel feel about reaching such a unique target?

I would also like to hear their input on the What are some good computer science resources for a Blind Programmer? (Question 370976) question on StackOverflow.


I want to hear Jeff go mano-a-mano with Zed Shaw http://zedshaw.com


Simialr to @Jonathan Sampson's post, I'd like to hear from The How To Geek as well as David Smalley and/or Paul Farnell in the same podcast.

  • Why did they join the league of justice
  • What has unexpected things have happened since they were announced
  • What are they going to do to better integrate with the other SO sites
  • Are they anticipating moving over to the StackExchange Engine (why/why not) ...
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    I still don't get that site's belonging in the SO group. Doctype on the other hand makes perfect sense. – Tim Matthews Aug 26 '09 at 2:38
  • @Ctrl Alt... Think of as SuperUser for people who are even less informed – Rob Allen Aug 26 '09 at 12:56
  • @Rob Allen I think most of those people are actually across the divide and have trouble starting the computer. – Tim Matthews Aug 28 '09 at 7:00

Interview Phil Haack and/or Scott Hanselman. I know that you've done lots of podcasts with Hanselman but I don't recall any with Phil Haack. Also Rob Conery worked on ASP.NET MVC and I know that he's no longer with Microsoft but his angle on what you've done with MVC would also be interesting.


I'd like to know whether Joel is indeed Jeff's father. :)


Maybe Jeff can chat to Seth Godin on the phone? I mean, I always like hearing stuff about marketing and the software business that makes sense.


Call in Show! Call in to Jeff Atwood with your questions (via Skype) about Stack Overflow.

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    You should always eat your own dog food. So using SO to get good questions on the show (voted by the users of SO) seems like a good idea. – Ólafur Waage Aug 25 '09 at 12:56
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    You voted me down sir. </sadpanda>. – George Stocker Aug 25 '09 at 12:57
  • Yes sir. :( – Ólafur Waage Aug 25 '09 at 13:30

Anders Hejlsberg to talk about .............. DELPHI (woot^^)


This may surprise you, it doesn't matter who's in the podcast, where it's made, what it's about, so long as it is made at regularly scheduled intervals. Granted it's polite to start a less ordinary podcast with a comment that says, "this week Joel is in france, so we have a ventriloquist with a dummy of Joel as a guest".

Make a podcast. Un ordinary ones may be short. They may even be a edited version of out-takes. Anything....


I'd like to hear a discussion about the good and the bad points of operating Stack Overflow with remote developers.


I would like to hear a discussion with a developer that is working on the AdSense for Google. Jeff has voiced a lot of opinions about AdSense which I tend to agree with but hearing from the source about why their model isn't working as intended and what they are planning to do about it would be very interesting.


Alex Papadimoulis from TheDailyWTF was an awesome guest, I certainly wouldn't mind hearing an encore.


How about how you obtain the detailed metrics and statistics for StackOverflow. Did you have to code the logging of key metrics? Also, how does Stack Overflow make enough money from just the few ads to pay for Jeff and the other two developers, plus other expenses like hosting, etc? BTW, where is is hosted? Brian

  • There's a banner/link in the footer of each page for the host. Currently it's Peak Internet. – Brian Surowiec Aug 27 '09 at 2:04

I'd like to hear some talk on the Maker's Schedule/Manager's Schedule as Paul Graham talks about here and how this may effect work on the sites as well as how Fog Creek handles this type of thing. This seems to be something that people I work with don't get who are outside of the programmer group despite it being a big part in how things get done.


Let Jeff explain for all us culturally challenged what all those references to ponies mean.


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