Today was the second (or third) time this happened to me on SO.

I've asked a question and some high reputation fellow has answered it with a possible solution. Specifically, the User suggested me to use KeyRemap4MacBook, I've downvoted it because it was not verified by the User if it worked, he then said about an option to alt map that I discovered didn't exist and made no sense. I've checked all by myself installing the tool and trying his key mappings with it to get on this conclusion.

The information that a possible solution doesn't work is valuable (e.g. anyone trying to solve the same problem could eliminate the work of verifying it before hand).

I think, because of his single downvote or little shame, he just deleted the answer (and all the comments along), just like this one.

To me, all this is not fair. I think this may be related to the pity problem, since the fellows are promptly deleting his downvoted answers, leaving only the upvoted-protected.

By downvoting I got -1 rep, a little after his deletion, it came back, but I've not minded by getting -1.

Is there a solution to this?


Sorry, I thought there was answer protection, but as everyone is saying, there is not.

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    Unless the answer is abysmal, consider not down-voting posts to your own question. That's probably why the user deleted his answer. – Adam Rackis Aug 11 '12 at 4:01
  • @AdamRackis Well, I think not, I may have not downvoted it, after I've checked by myself and he could see how he was wrong, he would delete it anyway even with 0 votes. So, what I said would apply to a answer with 0 votes. The problem is that IT IS VALUABLE by elimination – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:06
  • I've been on Stack Overflow for a decent amount of time -- I can assure you that downvoted answers are much, much more likely to be deleted than answers with 0 votes, as Dennis said. – Adam Rackis Aug 11 '12 at 4:14
  • @AdamRackis This was the time I'm manifesting myself, but I don't remember downvoting before, in the other ocasions as I said, and they got deleted. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:18
  • So your expectation is that every single answer has to be personally tested and verified to work before posting it? I've answered literally hundreds of questions on SO where I don't have any access to something to test it (like how to fix a query that isn't working right, where the solution is clear to me but I don't have access to the user's multi-gigabyte database to test). If "suggested solutions" aren't allowed, there would be a whole lot more unanswered questions here. Because a suggestion doesn't work for you doesn't mean you should automatically punish the effort to help by downvoting. – Ken White Aug 11 '12 at 5:01
  • @KenWhite What effort? anyway, I'm not discussing the -1, the problem is the deletion. I was misinformed, I though there was answer protection bias by the rules of SO, and there isn't. So that's it... I expect to see a lot of answer with value in some way or another just popping out because of a -1 or little shame. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 5:08
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    You downvoted an answer and then were upset when it was deleted? :confused: – user159834 Aug 11 '12 at 5:20
  • @WesleyMurch It's not that I was upset. It's about playing a fair game. This question is more about a bias I thought there was of upvoted-answers against (down/non)voted. Or you get protection for all, or for no one. I was upset by that happening through that bias. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 5:26

You're contradicting yourself.

The tooltip for downvoting reads This answer is not useful. If you honestly think so, by all means, downvote the answer.

However, if you do think that the answer has some value (and answers containing possible solutions frequently have), just don't downvote the answer. The vast majority of these answers won't get deleted.

Put yourself in the answerer's shoes: You answered a question in good faith, although you couldn't verify that the proposed solution would actually work. As a reward, you lost 2 reputation points. What incentive do you have not to delete your answer? None.

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  • The User could verify, I'm sure, he just had not, just leaving as an short unverified suggestion which I've checked by myself, and full of misinformation. Now, even if I had not downvoted it, do 0 votes answers get protection? If not, they are at the same boat as the downvoted ones as I said to Adam Rackis. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:16
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    Any user can delete any of their own answers of any score, any time they choose. The only "protection" that answers with at least 0 score have is against being deleted by votes from other people (with sufficient rep privileges). – BoltClock's a Unicorn Aug 11 '12 at 4:18
  • There isn't any protection for answers. It doesn't matter if your answer has a score of -1, 0 or 42, you can delete it (as long as it's not locked or accepted). I don't have the necessary reputation to see deleted answers on SO, but if the answer was really just a short unverified suggestion [...] full of misinformation, deletion sounds like a good call to me. – Dennis Aug 11 '12 at 4:21
  • @Dennis It is not a good call, there's a tool, that may work, someone suggested it as a solution, I verified as he said, and it was a lie, It doesn't work it that case, but the tool indeed looks, only looks, like it may work. It was not a good answer, the only value of it was I verifing that it was not, so anyone could know that it was not. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:27
  • Then edit it into your question: I've tried XYZ, but it didn't work. – Dennis Aug 11 '12 at 4:30
  • @Dennis yeaahhh.... I could do that. But I could die of infarct while editing and not submitting. But the question would still be there and the downvoted answer not. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:34
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    A heart attack at 27 and you worry about a deleted answer full of misinformation? I think you have your priorities wrong... – Dennis Aug 11 '12 at 4:42
  • @Dennis Who doens't :-) – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 4:44
  • @Chico - The final comment on the deleted answer is There's a way to make this work; I just don't have time to follow up so I'm deleting this answer. If there are other upvoted answers to a question, you can sometimes just as well delete your own partial answer. – Bo Persson Aug 11 '12 at 8:00
  • @BoPersson oh my, I think I'll need to draw... 1 - Still, there's no proper answer; 2 - someone answered as Hey I'm sure X works; 3 - I've checked, it does not, but it looked, and still looks as it may work, but will not; 4 - All this was embedded in the answer + comments. The information that it doesn't works, embedded in the discussion, not in the answer, is valuable. It is valuable to someone researching for a solution, which is still not fully answered at SO, but from where he could eliminate what is already known not working. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 19:19
  • @BoPersson even if it really looks like as a candidate solution to everyone. – pepper_chico Aug 11 '12 at 19:28

Ok I will answer my own question, as BoltClock's a Unicorn pointed, there is no answer protection against self-deletion.

I was misinformed, I thought there was answer protection bias by the rules of SO, and there isn't. So that's it... I expect to see a lot of answers with value in some way or another (who said that negative value is aways not valuable?) just popping out because of a -1 or little shame.

At last it's not in the SO DNA.

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