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I am a mod on Mi Yodeya. Today I looked at a certain user's reputation page, only to see that they had received a point back for a removed downvote on a post that I had recently deleted. This was visible to another mod on the site and remained so even after I refreshed the page a few minutes later. I should not be able to see this as it lets me know who the user downvoted, even if only after the post has been deleted.

Screenshot and some discussion is available here (mod only, for the user's privacy): https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8932508#8932508

Update: Per the comments, these are visible to regular users as well.

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  • Does this always happen, or was it just this once?
    – Servy
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 16:48
  • @Servy I've never noticed it before.
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 16:49
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    This looks like it's new (I've never noticed it before either) and persistent (looking through user reputation histories, I can see when they got +1 back on deleted posts going back several weeks). Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:03
  • @BilltheLizard Does it look like this? i.sstatic.net/KcuFf.png
    – Mysticial
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:20
  • @Mysticial Yes (except on my screen the removed posts are highlighted in red). Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:25
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    @BilltheLizard Interesting. It even links through for me. And I'm not a mod. Is there any way I can tell you which user this is without posting publicly? (if you weren't able to figure it out already)
    – Mysticial
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:27
  • @Mysticial DM'ing me on Twitter would probably be the quickest way. Let me see if I can find a heavy downvoter on a site where I'm not a mod. Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:30
  • @BilltheLizard Damn, I don't have a twitter account... I just checked, and those downvotes still appear when logged out. They don't link through since logged out is not 10k.
    – Mysticial
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:31
  • @Mysticial You can post a comment here and immediately delete. Bill can check the deleted comments.
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 17:31
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    @BilltheLizard I volunteer to be a heavy downvoter on a site where you're not a mod: programmers.stackexchange.com/users/31260/gnat?tab=reputation In logged-out mode this shows my downvotes on removed questions - see eg Apr 4 and Apr 3, if that would be some 10Ker, they'd even could click through links I guess to get to DVed posts
    – gnat
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 19:00
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    @gnat Yes, I can see three removed downvotes on those days. You're right, a 10k user would even be able to click through and see exactly what answers you downvoted. Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 19:05
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    @gnat I'm a non-mod 10k P.SE user, and you're right - I can easily see which posts you've downvoted from your rep history after they've been deleted :)
    – Rachel
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 19:14
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    @gnat We're looking into it.
    – Adam Lear StaffMod
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 19:37
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    Further info: not all deleted posts which I've downvoted are visible, for some reason: Looking at my rep: Today while logged in; Today as anonymous; Another day while logged in; That same day anonymously.
    – jscs
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 20:21
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    brb, suspending all 10K+ non mods on Programmers so they won't have a chance to see my DVs.
    – yannis
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 20:29

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Thanks for reporting this; it was reported once before, but no one could reproduce it then. Thanks to the efforts of the folks in the comments here, we've done better this time around.

Starting with the next build, no one who isn't the owner of the profile being viewed (or employed by Stack Exchange) will see the reputation returned from down-votes when a post is deleted.

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  • No problem :) ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​What changed between then and now that we figured it out?
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 20:54
  • So do we get any cookies?
    – Mysticial
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 20:59
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    You'd have gotten meta rep if you'd posted an answer, @Mysticial... (meta rep is sorta like cookies, except less tasty and also not edible or particularly useful in any way)
    – Shog9
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 20:59
  • The problem was pretty sensitive to the time of the deletion, so just having another year probably helped, @DoubleAA
    – Shog9
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 21:00
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    @Mysticial I managed to get myself 4 badges :)
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2013 at 21:01
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    I can report that the original place I saw this no longer has the issue. Success!
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 12, 2013 at 0:34
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    fix verified: looking at my Programmers rep tab in logged out mode, +1s for Apr 3 and 4 I've seen yesterday aren't displayed there anymore. Interesting that these aren't displayed in logged in mode either - +1s of deleted DVed answers seem to be totally gone away, even when I am logged in. Wonder if this is intentional? I even toggled on/off " show removed posts" to make sure I have it on - still, yesterday +1s aren't there anymore
    – gnat
    Commented Apr 12, 2013 at 5:36
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    hmm ... currently I can't see the returned rep in my own profile (on SO). Intention or maybe an overshooting fix?
    – kleopatra
    Commented Apr 12, 2013 at 9:59
  • @kleopatra as far as I can tell, this is a bug; see: “show removed posts” checkbox stopped working for me
    – gnat
    Commented Apr 12, 2013 at 10:54
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    @gnat thanks for the pointer and your post: that's exactly what I'm experiencing
    – kleopatra
    Commented Apr 12, 2013 at 10:57

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