Can we please undelete this post What happened to the Substance LaF? (10k+), that was deleted by Will on April 9 at 21:19?

I feel it should be un-deleted because:

  • It is a very interesting thread

  • It isn't outdated, with a long history

  • It has actual links to a very nice theme (Look and Feel) for Java Swing

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    You should add reasons/arguments to why it should be undeleted – Hugo Dozois Apr 18 '13 at 15:33
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    Seems pretty much too localized? What is the value of undeleting that one? – Bart Apr 18 '13 at 15:34
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    @Bart - since when are too localized questions deleted? – Adam Rackis Apr 18 '13 at 15:35
  • @AdamRackis I'm not saying it should have been deleted. I'm asking what the value is of undeleting that one. That said, for now at least, a version of that post seems to be available here, if you're looking to salvage content: efreedom.com/Question/1-5898028/… – Bart Apr 18 '13 at 15:35
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    @Bart - ok, fair enough. I don't know anything about what that post is about, but it seemed to have attracted a lot of upvotes, and it doesn't seem like the sort of garbage we should be deleting; having that post exist doesn't seem to make the internet a worse place. – Adam Rackis Apr 18 '13 at 15:36
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    There are lots of interesting topics, but not all are appropriate for SO. What happened to XXX? doesn't seem on topic for SO, even if XXX is a useful tool. – Caleb Apr 18 '13 at 15:39
  • @AdamRackis - the Great Typo Cleanup went through and deleted a bunch of typo questions, since they were the very definition of "too localized". Not saying that's the case here, but just answering your question. – LittleBobbyTables - Au Revoir Apr 18 '13 at 15:40
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    Also, we're talking about a question that's two years old. So the question is really What happened to XXX two years ago? – Caleb Apr 18 '13 at 15:43
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    @AdamRackis Why wouldn't too localized questions be deleted? The whole point of too localized is it's (assumedly) not going to be of use to any other visitors, so there's no reason to keep them around. – Anthony Grist Apr 18 '13 at 15:47
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    @Bart from the perspective of a backend developer everything on the desktop seems to be evaluated as too localized ;-) – kleopatra Apr 18 '13 at 16:24
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    disagree heartily with the decision to delete the question - it's a question about a valued tool in the Swing community with a history so twisted that it is hard to find. For the last two years the question had been a central point for lookup its whereabouts and status. That should be appropriate for SO. – kleopatra Apr 18 '13 at 16:31
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    Something I did not know until I tried: "A moderator has deleted this post and it cannot be undeleted." – trashgod Apr 18 '13 at 16:48
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    @kleopatra - this is becoming a growing problem. A small cadre of delete enthusiasts (or in this case a single moderator) are seeing to it that off-topic questions like this are not only closed, but deleted so nobody with < 10K rep can even see them. – Adam Rackis Apr 18 '13 at 16:56
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    @AdamRackis: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? I'm confident that the moderators also moderate one another, and I'll accept the result. In the meantime, I've proposed an alternative below. I'd welcome guidance on the idea. – trashgod Apr 18 '13 at 17:38
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    I've updated the wiki with content from the answers. I removed that question (which at first glance was "why is this website offline?") while cleaning up the online-resources tag. I see now that there's a bit more to it than that, but it's still in the class of questions requesting links or products. :/ I don't particularly see a reason to undelete, but if any other mod wants to reopen I won't have a food baby about it. – user1228 Apr 18 '13 at 19:28

Several respected contributors to the Java Swing tag have expressed a desire to retain this valuable resource, but "A moderator has deleted this post and it cannot be undeleted." An alternative might be to migrate the essential details to the relevant tag wiki, subject of course to reverting or burnination.

  • good idea, required un_delete before, – mKorbel Apr 18 '13 at 17:15
  • I defer to your and @kleopatra's greater experience in this area, but I'll stop by the tag for a copyedit. – trashgod Apr 18 '13 at 17:23

StackOverflow need not be a link-farmy-type site to redirect people to a project's page. While I have seen questions like this on StackOverflow escape the ire of the diamond mods, it doesn't make it right for them to exist. The creators of that project have the onus to maintain their site pages and own redirects.

  • +1 for like as a quote from FAQ, but SO is as community is, simple I disagre with delete, this post (since is localized) should be closed only, be sure I'm most active on SO .... – mKorbel Apr 18 '13 at 16:28
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    -1 that question has nothing to do with link farming – kleopatra Apr 18 '13 at 16:33
  • @kleopatra I'm disagree with this citation too, but meta has own rulles as you know very well :-), see another one – mKorbel Apr 18 '13 at 17:13
  • @kleopatra: The question and associated answers were looking for new links to an old project. – Brian Apr 18 '13 at 18:14

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