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A while back on the SO podcast, Joel Spolsky basically called folks who spend lots of time on MSO losers. He has a point, to a certain extent, I think. A little bit of meta is OK, too much and one becomes the teacher's pet.

So I whipped up a graph this morning and concentrated the data points on the page 1 MSO users. (Spent way too much time, 2/3rds of the total, labeling the graph with names--not doing that again in future graphs.) The below graph has three axises:

  • x-axis: MSO reputation points
  • y-axis: SO reputations points (SU in the case of Diago)
  • z-axis: SO profile views

Moderators have an excuse for spending time on MSO, the rest of us are just being nerdy. That is why I have segregated them into their own series.

(Why profile views? You're all a bunch of narcissistic tools, and we all know it! You like this kind of stuff.)

link text http://lanai.dietpizza.ch/images/MSO-rep-versus-SO-rep-small.gif

What does this tell us? Well, the users with the lowest slope are the SOpedians who are spending too much time on MSO and neglecting SO/SF/SU. To continue Jeff's "MSO is the teacher's lounge" analogy, these users are the Teacher's pets. The top three SOpedians with very low slopes:

  1. Ian Elliott (0.30)
  2. random (0.32)
  3. John Smithers (0.33)

Thoughts? Criticisms? Requests? Other interpretations? Let the waffles flow.


Updated with graph as per request:

  • x-axis: MSO reputation points
  • y-axis: SO reputations points (SU in the case of Diago)
  • z-axis: SO Profile views / account age

I did not bother with labels...too time consuming and the bubbles have not moved, just changed size. (Most of you are in at 11 or 12 months.) I also made Jeff Atwood transparent so that he does not block TheTXI. (Can you hear the ponies singing in heaven now?)

alt text http://lanai.dietpizza.ch/images/MSO-rep-versus-SO-rep-over-age-small.gif

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    w00t I'm in a graph. that's neat :D Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:05
  • I have a disproportionate amount of profile views. This your fault somehow, Ólafur.
    – Welbog
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:09
  • You're the sun everybody is revolving around in that strange solar system. Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:10
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    Look at me, swallowing jjnguy like a woman swallows a spider to catch a fly.
    – Welbog
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:11
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    That random, what a loser.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:13
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    I realise you'd have to do all that awesome hand drawing again, but could you add the page 1 SO users too? :) Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14
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    Welbog is the areola to jjinguy?
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:16
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    Can someone create a graph that has my name in it?
    – Randell
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:51
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    Where is TheTXI?
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 13:44
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    I would hardly consider myself a delicate flower if you payed attention at all, but then again I consider you a bigot so I guess it's all the same. Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 14:55
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    Woot! I'm in a graph! But why aren't you bastards looking at my profile? Because then you'll be all, "This guy does business intelligence? I need that! My business is unintelligent! And I love this guy! I'm calling." And I'd really appreciate that. Chiefly because it will allow me to buy more waffles.
    – Eric
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:11
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    This graph reveals to me that we need to do a better job of promoting Welbog's profile. stackoverflow.com/users/52443/welbog Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 16:37
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    I know realize that Bill the Lizard is a very funny guy. Ha ha. Anyway, the second graph is updated. Not going to update the first. All those penumbra should never have happened. Sigh... Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 18:34
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    If these graphs indicate anything, it's that Skeet is wholly unnatural. Hemp-wearing hippies everywhere should be protesting in front of his office...
    – Shog9
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 20:09
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    All this has proven is that I spend way to much time in front of my computer. No wonder my wife gives me dirty looks when I mention SU. Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 23:40

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I would replace profile views with:

profile views / account age
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  • there ya go! Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 16:30
  • Cool. I was trying to figure out why mine didn't change but then I realized I joined relatively early but didn't really start answering questions (in earnest) until December.
    – cletus
    Commented Aug 30, 2009 at 3:42
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I reckon it's because you can get away with a lot more off topic stuff here. Noisy comments and posts just get pruned ASAP from S[OFU] but here? Whammy, they're in your face and making noise like kids in a candy store.

Someone posts something, the kids start making off the wall comments, and before you know it, someone's come up with the next Jon Skeet Facts, or whatever.

[Un?]Fortunately, the sheer noise in comments also leads to some very helpful discussion and some great topics, so it would be stupid to start pruning it all willy nilly.

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    It is far more relaxed in Meta than it is out in the regular SOFU.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:02
  • @random - relaxed != (noise || mayhem) though.
    – Kev
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:49
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    @Kev: relaxed != (!noise && !mayhem) though Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 16:42
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ServerFault, no idea. StackOverflow, way too slow. SuperUser, getting there, but knowledge of computers isn't that broad. Need more Opera questions.

Where is the z-axis?

If you want to go with more waffles, replace the chicken pox marks with waffles and the smallpox dents with drops of syrup.

For those not so quick on the draw at SO, how about replacing that number with their highest rep value if it happens to be, oh, maybe SF or SU?

Hang on, is this an intervention?

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    It's in your face! Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14
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    The z-axis is the bubble size Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:18
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    So a small bubble face means you're flying under the radar? Veddy swell.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:19
  • A small bubble means that nobody cares about your existence, even yourself. (Viewing your own profile increments the count.) Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:32
  • Not raising any ire or causing any interest, excellent indeed.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:35
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    Viewing your own profile doesn't increment the count anymore Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 14:14
  • Cool. When did that happen? Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 14:36
  • @Random: I did try to select the highest score of all S* sites for folks. The only person who had that happen was Diego. (If you see an error in my data there, let me know and I'll investigate.) Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:06
  • Can't quite work out what the rep for the non-meta is for #6. If it's under 1K, that's SO. If it's closer to 1.5K, that the SU data.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:09
  • I'm not getting you: Which users are you talking about? I'll go revisit the numbers. Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:24
  • So close to the zero line, hard to tell if you're using SU rep or SO rep for #6 (random).
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:29
  • I could not find your user on SU, only SO. The number there is 963. What is your user ID on SU? Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:33
  • On second thought, let's just leave it alone, might de-slope the current slide.
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:39
  • It would drop you out of the #2 Teacher's Pet ranking, and then I could not use you as a fine example for Ian Elliott to follow. Your call. ;) Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 15:42
  • @random: What sort of clients? Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 23:22
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How about replacing profile views with account age? (How long they have been a member of the site)

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  • But how many of the Meta losers put in their real or approximate age?
    – random
    Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:36
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    Account age. How long they have been a member of the site. Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 12:37

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