A while back on the SO podcast, Joel Spolsky basically called folks who spend lots of time on MSO losers. He has a point, to a certain extent, I think. A little bit of meta is OK, too much and one becomes the teacher's pet.

So I whipped up a graph this morning and concentrated the data points on the page 1 MSO users. (Spent way too much time, 2/3rds of the total, labeling the graph with names--not doing that again in future graphs.) The below graph has three axises:

  • x-axis: MSO reputation points
  • y-axis: SO reputations points (SU in the case of Diago)
  • z-axis: SO profile views

Moderators have an excuse for spending time on MSO, the rest of us are just being nerdy. That is why I have segregated them into their own series.

(Why profile views? You're all a bunch of narcissistic tools, and we all know it! You like this kind of stuff.)

link text http://lanai.dietpizza.ch/images/MSO-rep-versus-SO-rep-small.gif

What does this tell us? Well, the users with the lowest slope are the SOpedians who are spending too much time on MSO and neglecting SO/SF/SU. To continue Jeff's "MSO is the teacher's lounge" analogy, these users are the Teacher's pets. The top three SOpedians with very low slopes:

  1. Ian Elliott (0.30)
  2. random (0.32)
  3. John Smithers (0.33)

Thoughts? Criticisms? Requests? Other interpretations? Let the waffles flow.

Updated with graph as per request:

  • x-axis: MSO reputation points
  • y-axis: SO reputations points (SU in the case of Diago)
  • z-axis: SO Profile views / account age

I did not bother with labels...too time consuming and the bubbles have not moved, just changed size. (Most of you are in at 11 or 12 months.) I also made Jeff Atwood transparent so that he does not block TheTXI. (Can you hear the ponies singing in heaven now?)

alt text http://lanai.dietpizza.ch/images/MSO-rep-versus-SO-rep-over-age-small.gif

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    w00t I'm in a graph. that's neat :D – Ólafur Waage Aug 29 '09 at 12:05
  • I have a disproportionate amount of profile views. This your fault somehow, Ólafur. – Welbog Aug 29 '09 at 12:09
  • You're the sun everybody is revolving around in that strange solar system. – Ólafur Waage Aug 29 '09 at 12:10
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    Look at me, swallowing jjnguy like a woman swallows a spider to catch a fly. – Welbog Aug 29 '09 at 12:11
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    That random, what a loser. – random Aug 29 '09 at 12:13
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    I realise you'd have to do all that awesome hand drawing again, but could you add the page 1 SO users too? :) – Greg Hewgill Aug 29 '09 at 12:14
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    Welbog is the areola to jjinguy? – random Aug 29 '09 at 12:16
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    Can someone create a graph that has my name in it? – Randell Aug 29 '09 at 12:51
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    Where is TheTXI? – random Aug 29 '09 at 13:44
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    I would hardly consider myself a delicate flower if you payed attention at all, but then again I consider you a bigot so I guess it's all the same. – Ian Elliott Aug 29 '09 at 14:55
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    Woot! I'm in a graph! But why aren't you bastards looking at my profile? Because then you'll be all, "This guy does business intelligence? I need that! My business is unintelligent! And I love this guy! I'm calling." And I'd really appreciate that. Chiefly because it will allow me to buy more waffles. – Eric Aug 29 '09 at 15:11
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    This graph reveals to me that we need to do a better job of promoting Welbog's profile. stackoverflow.com/users/52443/welbog – Bill the Lizard Aug 29 '09 at 16:37
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    I know realize that Bill the Lizard is a very funny guy. Ha ha. Anyway, the second graph is updated. Not going to update the first. All those penumbra should never have happened. Sigh... – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 18:34
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    If these graphs indicate anything, it's that Skeet is wholly unnatural. Hemp-wearing hippies everywhere should be protesting in front of his office... – Shog9 Aug 29 '09 at 20:09
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    All this has proven is that I spend way to much time in front of my computer. No wonder my wife gives me dirty looks when I mention SU. – BinaryMisfit Aug 29 '09 at 23:40

I would replace profile views with:

profile views / account age
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  • there ya go! – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 16:30
  • Cool. I was trying to figure out why mine didn't change but then I realized I joined relatively early but didn't really start answering questions (in earnest) until December. – cletus Aug 30 '09 at 3:42

I reckon it's because you can get away with a lot more off topic stuff here. Noisy comments and posts just get pruned ASAP from S[OFU] but here? Whammy, they're in your face and making noise like kids in a candy store.

Someone posts something, the kids start making off the wall comments, and before you know it, someone's come up with the next Jon Skeet Facts, or whatever.

[Un?]Fortunately, the sheer noise in comments also leads to some very helpful discussion and some great topics, so it would be stupid to start pruning it all willy nilly.

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    It is far more relaxed in Meta than it is out in the regular SOFU. – random Aug 29 '09 at 15:02
  • @random - relaxed != (noise || mayhem) though. – Kev Aug 29 '09 at 15:49
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    @Kev: relaxed != (!noise && !mayhem) though – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 16:42

ServerFault, no idea. StackOverflow, way too slow. SuperUser, getting there, but knowledge of computers isn't that broad. Need more Opera questions.

Where is the z-axis?

If you want to go with more waffles, replace the chicken pox marks with waffles and the smallpox dents with drops of syrup.

For those not so quick on the draw at SO, how about replacing that number with their highest rep value if it happens to be, oh, maybe SF or SU?

Hang on, is this an intervention?

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    It's in your face! – Ólafur Waage Aug 29 '09 at 12:14
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    The z-axis is the bubble size – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 12:18
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    So a small bubble face means you're flying under the radar? Veddy swell. – random Aug 29 '09 at 12:19
  • A small bubble means that nobody cares about your existence, even yourself. (Viewing your own profile increments the count.) – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 12:32
  • Not raising any ire or causing any interest, excellent indeed. – random Aug 29 '09 at 12:35
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    Viewing your own profile doesn't increment the count anymore – Ian Elliott Aug 29 '09 at 14:14
  • Cool. When did that happen? – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 14:36
  • @Random: I did try to select the highest score of all S* sites for folks. The only person who had that happen was Diego. (If you see an error in my data there, let me know and I'll investigate.) – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 15:06
  • Can't quite work out what the rep for the non-meta is for #6. If it's under 1K, that's SO. If it's closer to 1.5K, that the SU data. – random Aug 29 '09 at 15:09
  • I'm not getting you: Which users are you talking about? I'll go revisit the numbers. – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 15:24
  • So close to the zero line, hard to tell if you're using SU rep or SO rep for #6 (random). – random Aug 29 '09 at 15:29
  • I could not find your user on SU, only SO. The number there is 963. What is your user ID on SU? – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 15:33
  • On second thought, let's just leave it alone, might de-slope the current slide. – random Aug 29 '09 at 15:39
  • It would drop you out of the #2 Teacher's Pet ranking, and then I could not use you as a fine example for Ian Elliott to follow. Your call. ;) – Stu Thompson Aug 29 '09 at 15:42
  • @random: What sort of clients? – gnostradamus Aug 29 '09 at 23:22

How about replacing profile views with account age? (How long they have been a member of the site)

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  • But how many of the Meta losers put in their real or approximate age? – random Aug 29 '09 at 12:36
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    Account age. How long they have been a member of the site. – Ólafur Waage Aug 29 '09 at 12:37

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