In the top bar, the green “achievements” number shows +14. But when I open the dropdown, I see four items totalling +20. Why does the total not match the sum of the items?

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    The total has been inflation corrected.
    – Bart
    Dec 5, 2013 at 9:50
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    @Bart Next question: How do you short rep?
    – fredley
    Dec 5, 2013 at 9:52
  • 5
    The entire SE rep system is bad at math. I see things like that on my profile page all the time.
    – Flimzy
    Dec 5, 2013 at 10:04
  • I once saw +280; looking at the reputation change, it should have been the half. I dunno why SE wanted to give me the double reputation. :)
    – apaderno
    Dec 5, 2013 at 10:08
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    Its their way of keeping you involved on meta. Nothing like a bug, caching, or vanishing rep to do the trick!
    – asheeshr
    Dec 5, 2013 at 10:17
  • Funny that you get 14 upvotes yet for the calulation of 14. :-D
    – rekire
    Dec 5, 2013 at 10:43
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    the + is at the wrong position. I should be 1+4, then it would match your todays gained reputation. :-)
    – Jehof
    Dec 5, 2013 at 11:42
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    My edit would be rejected for being too minor, but I'd love to change the title since "math" isn't a verb! Dec 5, 2013 at 14:36
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    @JamesWebster I believe it's there intended to be somewhat humorous.
    – Cruncher
    Dec 5, 2013 at 14:37
  • @Cruncher.. I could agree with that. (nod) I still don't like it! :P Dec 5, 2013 at 14:39
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    @JamesWebster new top bar can't add doesn't catch the eye as much. The word math really just shows that the calculation, however arrived at, was wrong
    – Cruncher
    Dec 5, 2013 at 14:46
  • 1
    top bar does new math? (for people too young to understand the reference: new math)
    – user213963
    Jun 6, 2014 at 15:31

1 Answer 1


This post was deleted (by you), resulting in a net -16.

Just like your profile, we don't show changes due to deleted posts in the achievements dropdown. They are however available in your profile if you opt to see them via the checkbox at the bottom of the reputation tab.

  • 3
    Then it still can't math? It should be 4 then? not 14
    – Cruncher
    Dec 5, 2013 at 14:35
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    @Cruncher another +10 came in when he clicked the inbox that isn't yet rendered, simple timing issue there. Dec 5, 2013 at 14:36
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    The rationale for not showing deleted post was not to draw attention on them. If you follow that rationale, you shouldn't display the reputation reduction either: the wrong math a flagrant invitation to go digging and trigger meta drama. If you don't follow that rationale, then display the deletion event. Dec 5, 2013 at 16:44
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    @Gilles the reputation totals for today on the previous hover and on your profile tab have the same behavior, and have for years. We have no intention of changing it. Dec 5, 2013 at 17:41
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    Why not show which posts were deleted? Maybe at least a checkbox at the bottom of the menu, to show which posts got deleted?
    – cnst
    Jan 27, 2014 at 20:21
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    This is wrong. Period.
    – sbi
    Jun 6, 2014 at 11:43
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    "They are however available in your profile if you opt to see them via the checkbox at the bottom of the reputation tab." This must be done manually for each of a potentially large number of accounts individually; if you want to see that information and make the sum make sense it is rather difficult to do (and I'm not even sure it'd be evident then, without scrolling through the past activities for each site).
    – WBT
    Feb 21, 2016 at 19:55

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