I really enjoyed that site. I've only posted on it once, but I enjoyed seeing other people's posts and appreciated reading about entrepreneurial dilemmas.

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    It was closed because the required community failed to form. – Martijn Pieters Dec 30 '13 at 20:15
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    thats a shame. I can understand how this would be more of an occasional question forum than community... – Dave Alperovich Dec 30 '13 at 20:16
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    It ran out of venture capital^W^Wcommunity involvement and went bust. – Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' Dec 30 '13 at 23:36
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    very amuzed that a question like this gets voted down. ahh, the meta experience. :) – Dave Alperovich Dec 31 '13 at 0:53
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    It was resurrected by the community outside of stackexchange at Bright Journey and thriving. – Patricia. Feb 18 '14 at 4:56
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    What SE site should be used instead for business-related questions? – Yuck May 15 '14 at 21:09
  • Related: meta.stackexchange.com/q/217793/159916 – Pacerier Jun 10 '14 at 4:59
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    There's a new SE for startups in private beta. That is, @DaveA, if you still care :] – jdero Aug 14 '14 at 1:37

The Startups Stack Exchange site didn't make it; the community required to sustain it beyond Beta never materialized.

See the Area51 proposal, where you can download an archive of the site as well.

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    Some of the community that did participate seemed to feel a lack of focus/guidance. The answers would wander into brow-beating and knocking those who asked questions. That likely brought a chilling effect to askers (sure did for me). That spells doom. Cautionary tale I suppose. – Chris Moschini Apr 15 '14 at 21:07
  • Fun fact: the area 51 stats seem mostly fine. Get rid of these stats already! – Raphael Jun 22 '14 at 16:23

Apparently it was resurrected as Bright Journey. I just got an email about this.

  • Did the email have any information about the software they use? I poked around on the site and could not recognize the engine nor find any information about it. They acknowledge SE source with a link to Area 51 ("Made possible by SE"), and that's it. – How About a Nice Big Cup of Feb 17 '14 at 17:23
  • @user127096, the email didn't say. I was wondering about that too. – Kenny Evitt Feb 17 '14 at 18:11
  • @user127096 Looking at their roadmap, I think they've built it from scratch. – Stijn Feb 17 '14 at 18:35
  • @KennyEvitt Did you provide them your e-mail? How did they contact you using it? – Kasra Rahjerdi Feb 17 '14 at 19:00
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    If your questions won't fit in here, feel free to contact me directly at team {AT} brightjourney .com – user3188544 Feb 17 '14 at 19:13
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    @user127096 We'll eventually be making our software open source on GitHub for anyone to use. Feel free to email me and I'll alert you when it's released. – user3188544 Feb 17 '14 at 19:17
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    @KennyEvitt according to their post on Hacker News alongside a comment they posted here (but removed) they reverse engineered the e-mails from hashes in the data dump which were for gravatars. – Kasra Rahjerdi Feb 18 '14 at 1:15
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    @KasraRahjerdi Here is the full Hacker News thread for reference. – user3188544 Feb 18 '14 at 4:36
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    Um, everyone's email hash is online and several people have reverse engineered the hashes of the entire stackoverflow audience... A user was able to get 10% of the entire userbase's email addresses: developer.it/post/… – Jill.G Feb 18 '14 at 20:36
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    These threads show exactly how the community feels: here, here and here – Jill.G Feb 18 '14 at 20:42
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    Just to clarify, @Jill: this is probably the one GOOD use for that email hash (apart from Gravatar, of course, which is what it was intended for). And it REALLY SUCKS that a handful of people decided mass cracking + spamming of email hashes was worth investing in, because otherwise we could've kept this option open for the future - it's ALWAYS a good idea to give folks a way to prove they wrote something. Frankly, it pisses me off that "privacy" is winning out over "attribution" in these discussions - but, that's what folks care about right now, so be it. If you have good ideas, post 'em. – Shog9 Feb 19 '14 at 2:47
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    @Shog9 I'm not sure why it would have taken this long to just save the gravatars locally and serve them vs using email hashes. And you're right that bright journey was probably the only good use for the hashes. They wouldn't have been able to bring the closed community back to life without it. – Jill.G Feb 19 '14 at 3:25
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    @Shog9 Who are you referring to with the profanity? – Jill.G Feb 19 '14 at 3:39
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    A certain company who decided to extract a bunch of email addresses and then harass SO users, @Jill. Also, vulgarity not profanity. Also, sorry - nothing to do with you, just something that depresses me since it means the next Bright Journey will be a bit harder to set up. – Shog9 Feb 19 '14 at 3:42
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    @Shog9 Ah, I see. In that context I misinterpreted as you referring that to Bright Journey. My apologies. – Jill.G Feb 19 '14 at 3:46

It didn't have enough ongoing activity, so it was closed down. It seems there were only a very small handful of regulars who were maintaining the site.

There are more details on the Startup Business site proposal on Area 51.

(Note that there is also a new proposal to try and get a new community of users around the topic.)

  • that's interesting. I wonder if the forum could have value without a hard-core community. The incubator-style questions seemed to serve a purpose. – Dave Alperovich Dec 30 '13 at 20:20
  • @DaveA I didn't frequent the site, so I'm not familiar with the incubator-style questions. They are still available in the data dump though. – Bill the Lizard Dec 30 '13 at 21:59

As of 2014, there's currently a new proposal called "Startup" in Area51.

As of August 2014, it is in public beta. Visit startups.stackexchange.com.

As of December 2017, it will be shut down again.

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    Why would they do that? If it failed the first time, why would you think "oh let's just start another site and put all the same questions back on it" would change anything? That sounds like a horrific plan. – animuson Jun 5 '14 at 4:44
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    @animuson, Why do you say they failed? There are good questions and there are good answers. It's only closed because we don't get the minimum 5 questions/day on average (4.8 was the number). Closed != Failed. – Pacerier Jun 5 '14 at 5:23
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    "Failed" to make a community big enough for interests of SE. In my opinion, succeeded in other very intriguing ways – Dave Alperovich Jun 5 '14 at 10:38
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    @Pacerier Startups wasn't closed because it didn't hit a somewhat arbitrary questions-per-day number. It had large systemic issues like a lack of cohesive, engaged community, lack of moderation (except by a handful of people), abysmal user retention, and so on. There's no harm in trying again - and we have active sites right now that were restarts of closed proposals - but keep in mind that the goal can't be "get a new site and import all old posts". That's just not how this sort of thing works. – Adam Lear Jun 5 '14 at 13:58
  • @AdamLear, Do you mean Brightjourney will exist alongside Startups-SE if the new Startups-SE gets traction? – Pacerier Jun 5 '14 at 21:02
  • @Pacerier We don't run Bright Journey. I have no idea what its owners plans are. – Adam Lear Jun 5 '14 at 21:03
  • @Adam whatever that "Bright Journey" was, it's now pretty much dead, while the SE site isn't really thriving, but is alive and kicking. SE wins. :-D – Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard Aug 17 '16 at 10:13
  • @Sha Let's call it a tie. – user315433 Dec 8 '17 at 14:19
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    Saved a copy of that post on web archive, as the question would go away along with the site. – Bhargav Rao Dec 8 '17 at 14:31
  • @CrazyIvan huh. Isn't it the first time a public beta is being shut down due to lack of activity? I guess they will close many other sites now, Health.SE for sure and others with low activity. – Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard Dec 9 '17 at 7:44
  • @ShadowWizard Far from the first. There were Startups v1, Arabic Language, Theoretical Physics, Literature v1, Astronomy v1, Economics v1, and others – user315433 Dec 9 '17 at 18:45
  • @CrazyIvan oh. So only graduated site was never closed down? – Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard Dec 9 '17 at 18:59
  • @ShadowWizard Correct. – user315433 Dec 9 '17 at 19:28

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