I have been noticing for a long time the number of bins amongst Stack Overflow chat rooms.

Here are a few:

then there are a few more ...

There are a couple more if you type 'bin' in a chat room search.

I understand the need for multiple chat rooms, each for a different topic, but I couldn't comprehend the simultaneous existence of 7+ bins.

According to this post, a room will be deleted when the entire room is off topic. So why aren't bins ever cleaned or deleted, but instead they multiple in numbers like the spring rabbits.

A better question would be: should there be multiple off topic rooms like those bins?

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    Cannot resist - because there is so much garbage. – Martin James Feb 24 '14 at 15:25
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    There's lots of trash on the Internet, we need enough bins to put it in – Tony The Lion Feb 24 '14 at 15:26
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    I think the only valid reason to create such a room is to have mod powers in that room. Without mod powers you can't undo (move the deleted message back). – HamZa Feb 24 '14 at 15:29
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    Well, we need to store your chat contributions somewhere @sudo :p – Bart Feb 24 '14 at 15:55
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    "So why aren't bins ever cleaned or deleted, but instead they multiple in numbers like the spring rabbits." - because there is no active discussion in bins, having them around is 'free', it doesn't clutter or cost anything and it doesn't really harm the overall quality of the chat. In short it's a non-issue. – Benjamin Gruenbaum Feb 24 '14 at 16:20
  • Bins are cleaned. In order to delete a message from a bin, it has to be moved to a bin. So when cleaning a bin, messages which should be deleted are moved to a new bin. This is how so many bins exist. The technical term is bin recursion. – Travis J Feb 24 '14 at 16:50
  • @HamZa in theory maybe, but in practice, very few messages ever get moved back. – user202362 Feb 26 '14 at 7:06
  • @Bart I am sure 1 bin would be enough for all my messages, no need to have 10 bins just because occasionally my messages suit other bins >_< my existence is tiny & my messages are ... well ... meta, I <3 you so much, I am attract to you just like an common mynah bird to a huge trash bin <3 <3 – user202362 Feb 26 '14 at 7:10

This question presupposes that the bins are created for some kind of logical reason. They're not. They're created as a filthy hack around the fact that the chat is not actively maintained so you can't delete messages.

None of the bin rooms should actually exist. But until the developers start developing again, this shitstorm of hacks is what we're stuck with.

"Why do the developers permit multiple bins to exist?" "For the same reason any bins exist- because they don't care".

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    You might be right...but talk about a harsh way to put it. – Makoto Feb 24 '14 at 16:29
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    We've been complaining about it for years. Neither nice nor harsh had any noticable effect so I see no reason to hold back. – DeadMG Feb 24 '14 at 16:32
  • @Makoto lol, 'harsh'. This is putting it politely. – thecoshman Feb 24 '14 at 17:01
  • @DeadMG Is there a feature request to allow room owners to delete messages? If not we should make one. Nothing like a real written proposal ya know. – ɥʇǝS Apr 11 '14 at 20:15
  • Been done a thousand times over. Chat is the project of a developer who left the company, as near as we can tell. We've gotten something like six trivial features and bug fixes in the last three years. You won't get anything here. – DeadMG Apr 11 '14 at 23:17