I noticed we no longer have the option to close for minimal understanding. However, in the help center it is still mentioned:

https://stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic .

Questions asking for code must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved. Include attempted solutions, why they didn't work, and the expected results. See also: Stack Overflow question checklist

Can we still use this as a close reason within the "other" close reason. Some questions really have no understanding whatsoever.

closed as off-topic by Martijn Pieters, nicael, James, ɥʇǝS, CRABOLO Oct 31 '14 at 0:56

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

  • "This question pertains only to a specific site in the Stack Exchange Network. Questions on Meta Stack Exchange should pertain to our network or software that drives it as a whole, within the guidelines defined in the help center. You should ask this question on the meta site where your concern originated." – Martijn Pieters, nicael, James, ɥʇǝS
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

  • And in these cases it doesn't make sense to use "too broad" or "unclear what you're asking"? Can you provide some examples? – Aaron Bertrand Mar 7 '14 at 23:00
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    The problem with using this as a close reason is that users who close questions for this reason re-interpret the words "minimal understanding" to mean "minimal effort," and that's not the same thing at all. – Robert Harvey Mar 7 '14 at 23:00
  • @RobertHarvey IMHO, they are different but related and I'm not sure what the problem is with having them used for the same purpose. Often, "minimal understanding" is a direct reflection on the "minimal effort". – codeMagic Mar 7 '14 at 23:04
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    There's nothing wrong with "minimal effort," except that it has never been a valid close reason on Stack Overflow. – Robert Harvey Mar 7 '14 at 23:08
  • I'm confused. Surely you aren't saying that there is nothing wrong with someone putting "minimal effort" into a solution before posting? – codeMagic Mar 7 '14 at 23:09
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    "Minimal understanding" has mostly to do with the OP having disclosed their relative level of expertise and demonstrated in their question that they would understand the answers that we give him. "Demonstration of effort" has never been a requirement for asking a question on Stack Overflow. This fundamental misunderstanding is what got the close reason removed in the first place. – Robert Harvey Mar 7 '14 at 23:10
  • Hmmm...I do see your point there but is a bit of a grey area on what the actually meaning of "minimal understanding" would be. We'll call it a draw – codeMagic Mar 7 '14 at 23:25
  • Whatever it means, it doesn't mean "minimal effort," although I do understand how it came to be interpreted that way. – Robert Harvey Mar 7 '14 at 23:28
  • @RobertHarvey if "minimal effort" was never a requirement for asking a question on SO, then that would mean regurgitated homework and icanhascodez questions would overrun the site. I'm pretty sure we discourage answering those? – Ken Franqueiro Mar 8 '14 at 1:28
  • Also I think part of the "problem" is that icanhascodez questions are intended to be downvoted rather than closed. At least, that's the understanding I currently have, which might still be wrong... either way, I'm not sure how many people understand it. See my comment at meta.stackexchange.com/questions/211080/… and Shog9's response. This doesn't help for bad questions that receive (possibly also bad) answers though, IIUC. – Ken Franqueiro Mar 8 '14 at 1:31

This now falls under Off Topic:

This question appears to be off-topic because it lacks sufficient information to diagnose the problem. Describe your problem in more detail or include a minimal example in the question itself.

The requirement of a minimal example requires a minimal understanding of the question and/or answer.

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