# Simplify vote-limiting logic

In the beginning there were daily vote limits. Then we realized we want to encourage voting on questions and so the idea of giving an extra 10 votes for questions was accepted.

1. Everyone gets a total of 30 votes.
2. You may get up to 10 extra question votes.
3. Warnings remain simple... (5 votes remaining, 4 votes remaining...)
4. Question votes may be cast at any time during the day. However, once you reach the N votes remaining warnings, stuff is set in stone. A question voting spree at the end will still count down.

Can we please simplify this logic so that regardless of how one casts 30 votes one can still vote 10 more times on questions?

• No, I agree with Bill's comment: Agreed. More balanced voting throughout the day would be much better than question-only voting at the end of the day. – Martijn Pieters Aug 27 '14 at 17:40
• If we're going to stick with these limits, I definitely think implementing them how most people would logically think it would work is a good idea. (You can keep voting as long as you have fewer than 40 votes, or are voting on a question if you have 30+ answer votes) – Andrew Barber Aug 27 '14 at 18:56
• The limits documentation was clarified in the meanwhile, by the way. There are effectively 3 separate rate limits for votes. – Nemo May 7 '15 at 15:52
• – Always Confused Aug 7 '16 at 18:55

TL;DR: Do not set the question-only votes to zero when there are only five general-purpose votes left.

I second the request to simplify the behaviour, though not exactly as suggested by the OP. The current behaviour is unnecessarily confusing and annoying for those who vote a lot or just go on a voting spree. Also keep in mind that there is no simple way to acquire the number of votes you already have cast on a day.

While this may be an extreme example, casting 25 answer votes and 9 question votes already suffices to lose one question vote and I would not necessarily consider this an unbalanced voting behaviour on many sites.

1. Everyone gets a total of 30 votes.
2. You may get up to 10 extra question votes.
3. Warnings remain simple... (5 votes remaining, 4 votes remaining...)
4. Question votes may be cast at any time during the day. However, once you reach the N votes remaining warnings, stuff is set in stone. A question voting spree at the end will still count down.

So, according to my understanding, the only reason for the current confusing behaviour is to avoid potentially confusing warnings. I think the lesser evil is to skip the fourth point and have a more complex warning shown – but only to those, who really need it and would probably be confused anyway. More precisely:

1. Everybody gets 30 general-purpose votes and 10 question-only votes.
2. Question-only votes are used up first, if applicable.
3. If only 5 general-purpose votes remain and all question-only votes are used up, show the warning as it is now: