When a comment conversation is moved by moderators to a chat room, the upvotes on those comments are lost. If a comment had 20 upvotes, there is nothing to indicate that once it has been moved to chat. The points that people agreed with are then no longer recognized.
Could the upvotes on comments be translated into stars on the chat-comments?
As a moderator on four subjective sites, this would be extremely helpful on subjective sites. It is a common occurrence for extended discussions to crop up on artistic and subjective sites where the end result is likely to meaningfully improve the answer, but comments is not the right place to do this.
My only option when cleaning up these discussions is to migrate the discussion to chat, but in doing so, the support of various points is lost and it makes consensus harder to reach.
Yes, stars and comment upvotes have different meanings, however one is a superset of the other. Stars ARE used for things that are interesting or that people agree with. Upvotes on comments are used for the same. Stars can be used on other things as well, but that doesn't mean that comment upvotes don't map to them well.
As for the concerns about people with low rep not being able to chat, chat users are already created for migrated comments and the posts are tied to that user, so they'd be able to alter their stars if they wanted to under the normal rules. All involved users are also automatically added to the write access of the chat, so even if they have under 15 rep, they will still be able to talk in that room.
I started writing up this request myself before seeing it had been asked before.
This would be great.
Some people have already pointed out that stars and comment upvotes don't mean the same thing. Fair enough.
A reasonable solution might be to distinguish migration-chats as a different class of chats, with upvotes there too rather than stars.
Although I appreciate that the level of effort required to implement this likely goes well beyond what is deemed worthwhile for a mere sub-species of Stack Exchange content.
A compromise might be to convert to stars but just indicate in the room's description that "stars mean upvotes here". Or "stars cast on messages earlier than XXXX-YY-ZZ HH:NN:SS mean upvotes" and block new stars on those messages.
While there is some difference between stars and comment upvotes, the benefit of retaining the information about comment upvotes while transferring them to chat outweighs the drawbacks:
Converting comment upvotes to chat stars for migrated-to-chat comments can also theoretically improve how this moderation action is viewed from the outside and be an even healthier option (not that there is anything wrong with it now). It might mean that a moderator has to manually cancel some stars out; however, usually, that implies that the comment should have been deleted in the first place.
Therefore, I strongly support the implementation of such a feature.
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There are two problems with your proposal.
First, a star in chat does mean something different than up-voting a comment. A comment vote means usefulness, while chat votes can just mean it was important for some reason or maybe just fun.
The second thing is: not all users have an account on chat, or have the privilege to chat. That means votes aren't as transitional as you think.
Every time, when moderator converts my upvoted comment into chat, it feels like I lost something important.
Community votes is like money here, it's just not nice to refuse it.
According to our CoC, we should find a way to not disturb our participants with that sort of losing.
community where all people feel welcome
The two things are different.
Upvote on comment is to state you agree with the comment, or it was useful, or points out a valid mistake, etc.
Stars in chat are for chat comments which people thought were useful in chat (or something which was fun or interesting), and they have no relevance or bearing on questions or answers on the main site.
Plus, upvotes and stars are about "recognition", and comments moved to chat don't need upvotes or stars as it's about the discussion continuing away from the main site.
Nothing to do with recognition.
What if moved comments retained upvotes, and they would look like upvotes? Re-using the star feature as an easy way out sounds... well, it's a hack, let's be honest about it. What about spending a bit more of development time and implementing chat message upvotes for chat rooms created from moved post comments? Stars would still keep their original meaning, and chat message upvotes would only appear in these types of chat rooms.
