For those who were sitting at home crying. Could we see the intro video that was used at DevDays?

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    Yes! I was actually going to ask this – presumed it had already been done though. Nov 7, 2009 at 23:14
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    Who's going to start the "DevDays reviews - Sitting at home crying"?
    – random
    Nov 8, 2009 at 7:22
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    A bounty? I don't think Joel needs your rep ;) Nov 11, 2009 at 21:11
  • The only way if I want someone to REALLY look at my question (as per the FAQ) Nov 12, 2009 at 9:34
  • Don't trust the FAQ :) Nov 13, 2009 at 9:30

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I asked Joel to post it, but he's hesitant for some reason...

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    Joel doesn't strike me as a person to shy away from controversial statements, surprised he wouldn't want an obviously over-the-top (hilarious) joke video seen.
    – Tom Ritter
    Nov 8, 2009 at 7:29
  • you should run it by your crack legal team
    – waffles
    Nov 8, 2009 at 9:22
  • Hmm, I'd love to see it. If it means getting sued by a bunch of expert transsexuals, so be it.
    – Sam Becker
    Nov 8, 2009 at 9:39
  • So do we need to ask Joel directly then?
    – Sim
    Nov 10, 2009 at 3:10
  • The Pope might get upset? Nov 12, 2009 at 13:35
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    @Sam Saffron: Wow, I read that as "run it by your legal crack team" and wondered what drugs have to do with it.
    – mmyers
    Nov 12, 2009 at 17:32
  • for context: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10630/…
    – waffles
    Nov 18, 2009 at 6:43

Fog Creek Customer Service to me

Hi Rip,

Joel passed along your email and asked me to get back to you.

We don't have it online unfortunately... although you're the 3rd to ask!

If there's any way I can help you further, please let me know.

Sincerely, Michael

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    Hello Michael, you can help me by putting the video online. Thanks, SO users ;-) Nov 12, 2009 at 13:26

This video was terrible and should never ever be released to the public.

I find it personally offensive and controversial in numerous ways, and with its extremely high production quality it is poised to spread like a virus over the world wide web.

The effects of this could be devastating:

  • Fog Creek Software, who is already flaunting how comfortable and cool they make their developers, stand to represent themselves as people who both manage developers and have a sense of humor. This puts tremendous pressure on both developers and managers to act human.

  • By drawing parallels to a popular television show and character, and by focusing on several aspects of developer culture that are not mired in technical lexicon, this video may actually be found humorous to non-developers.

  • This video makes it very clear, even if thinly veiled in tasteless humor, that people without Asperger's or other analogous social disorders are disadvantaged as potential employees. I have tried in vain efforts to make myself more marketable, to force myself to understand your world of lolcats and 4chan but I can not crack this glass ceiling. The prejudice needs to stop, not be fueled by dissemination of this video.

I vote an emphatic NO. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


Found this very very average copy on YouTube - you can't see much but at least you can hear it.

  • Ya I saw that, totally unwatchable. Nov 7, 2009 at 23:47
  • Yeah agreed but at least you can listen to it. The real thing would be great.
    – Sim
    Nov 8, 2009 at 2:46

I attended the devdays Boston event and would love a copy of this video.

I think everyone should pressure Joel to post it. :)


I think the intro demo is going to become Volume 7 - Management, of the Make Better Software training series. That's why it hasn't been posted.

  • It's a fun intro video for the devdays people, don't see how its related to that. Nov 15, 2009 at 0:10

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