When will Winter Bash 2017 start?

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    I don't know the exact dates just yet, but we always start sometime in December. Usually it starts before the winter solstice, but most of the event occurs in (northern hemisphere) winter. – Jon Ericson Nov 17 '17 at 17:56
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    I had to google this since I didnt knw what it is, but it sounds reallly fun cant wait!! – Peter Haddad Nov 19 '17 at 7:22

If it's hats you want, then have no fear;
The next Winter Bash is drawing near!
To know when, you must be fast,
And look up dates of winters past.
But finding the year will be a strain.
You might even say it's a royal pain.
Once you've found that date, shout "yay!"
And then move back a single day.
I'm sorry but I have to run;
We hope you all will join the fun!

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    That's a rather long way of saying in 6-8 weeks ... – Glorfindel Nov 17 '17 at 20:38
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    @Glorfindel Hey if you put in the effort to solving the clues I gave, it does reveal the exact date. ;) – animuson Nov 17 '17 at 20:39
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    Do I get a hat for solving the riddle? – Stephen Leppik Nov 17 '17 at 21:24
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    While fun and cute, this really seems to be a link-only answer that is subject to immediate deletion. – Robert Columbia Nov 18 '17 at 0:12
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    @Robert You'll find that there are a lot of riddles and jokes on Meta around this time of year. – animuson Nov 18 '17 at 0:14
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    You may apply "quote formatting" your poem! – Pandya Nov 18 '17 at 2:22
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    Wrong site, please migrate it to Puzzling ;p – Somewhat Memorable Name Nov 18 '17 at 7:49
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    what? no countdown page? – Memor-X Nov 22 '17 at 10:44
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    shouts YAY!!!!!! – A J Nov 29 '17 at 7:27

Let's look at the poem, keeping in mind that animuson said that the clues are in the second line of each couplet:

To know when, you must be fast,
And look up dates of winters past.

So, we're starting from the dates of the past Winter Bash (stolen from another answer):

  • 2012 – December 19, 2012 (Wed) –> January 4, 2013 (Fri)
  • 2013 – December 16, 2013 (Mon) –> January 3, 2014 (Fri)
  • 2014 – December 15, 2014 (Mon) –> January 4, 2015 (Sun)
  • 2015 – December 14, 2015 (Mon) –> January 3, 2016 (Sun)
  • 2016 – December 19, 2016 (Mon) –> January 8, 2017 (Sun)

So we've got some dates.

But finding the year will be a strain.
You might even say it's a royal pain.

So, we need a year that had a royal themed hat. The very first year was 2012 and it had the hat "Monarch by Right", awarded for rep capping five days during the Winter Bash.

Martijn Peter's Winter Bash avatar with Monarch by Right hat

The full lists for the other years don't seem to have any royal hats - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016...

Except, apparently, this beauty, which I'd forgotten was "royal" headgear:

Fan-hat-ic Hat on Balpha's avatar

This is the "Fan-hat-ic" hat from 2015 and, based on the comments, is the one animuson actually intended. It was worn by Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice Elizabeth Mary of York at the wedding of Kate Middleton to Prince William.

This leaves us with the start date of December 19th 14th.

Once you've found that date, shout "yay!"
And then move back a single day.

So... this is where we have to make a judgement call... I think this line of the poem is ambiguous - You can "move back" in time... which would put the date as December 18th 13th BUT one can also "move back" an event... which puts it later, implying the 20th 15th.

Most of the time, Winter Bash starts on a Monday, though in 2012 it started on a Wednesday. So, considering that neither choices are a Monday and one is a Wednesday, I'm going to say that Winter Bash 2017 will start on:

Monday Wednesday December 18th 13th, 2017

This has since been confirmed with the release of the new Winter Bash count down page.

So, amusingly, both of the other answers were correct (assuming that I am)... just not for the right reason. It's worth noting that animuson said that using 2016 for the reference year was wrong, not that the resulting answer was. Both years started on the same date, so the clues could have been written to refer to either year and give the same result.

  • Wow, you solved it lol! Congrats! – Panda Nov 18 '17 at 23:42
  • Well, animuson hasn't confirmed it's right. – Catija Nov 18 '17 at 23:49
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    Huh, I guess I should have looked harder to make sure there wasn't another "royal" hat. But I was hoping someone would just type "royal" into the search box here on Meta, and see the first result there... – animuson Nov 19 '17 at 7:02
  • @animuson :/ meh. – Catija Nov 19 '17 at 7:06
  • Meh indeed. Clearly I'm not cut out for the Puzzling site. – animuson Nov 19 '17 at 7:09
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    @animuson it's a fun poem and kept me entertained today. I'd forgotten about that hat until you linked it. – Catija Nov 19 '17 at 7:13
  • @animuson I'm still not 100% on the whole "back" ambiguity... and now it's sort of worse because I've lost the "Monday" pattern... – Catija Nov 19 '17 at 7:28
  • I had nothing to do with choosing the dates and don't know why it was switched back to Wednesday. :P – animuson Nov 19 '17 at 7:31
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    I don't think anyone even looked at the calendar, tbh. The decision process went like this: "Need to start roughly mid-December and run for 3 weeks to go past January 1. Um... 13th to the 3rd? Sold." – Adam Lear Nov 19 '17 at 18:19
  • @AdamLear Well, so much for my logic. :D I'll keep that in mind for the future. – Catija Nov 19 '17 at 18:22

Well, it's official now!

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Wednesday December 13th, 2017 it is.

This will probably prove more helpful than bad poetry:

http://winterbash2016.stackexchange.com/faq

What is going on? Why do I see hats? From December 19th through January 8th, you'll be able to earn hats all over the sites! Ask, answer, vote, edit, and chat, and you'll uncover hats hidden in all kinds of places.

In 2016, December 19th was a Monday. So rather than starting Winter Bash on Tuesday the 19th of December (who starts anything on a Tuesday) you can expect to see holiday cheer starting on Monday the 18th of December.

Bah humbug animuson, bah humbug indeed.

And look up dates of winters past.

  • 2012 – December 19, 2012 (Wed) –> January 4, 2013 (Fri)
  • 2013 – December 16, 2013 (Mon) –> January 3, 2014 (Fri)
  • 2014 – December 15, 2014 (Mon) –> January 4, 2015 (Sun)
  • 2015 – December 14, 2015 (Mon) –> January 3, 2016 (Sun)
  • 2016 – December 19, 2016 (Mon) –> January 8, 2017 (Sun)

But finding the year will be a strain.

It's the 2016 Winter Bash.

Once you've found that date, shout "yay!"

yay! Winter Bash 2016 started on December 19 ...

And then move back a single day.

... so, Winter Bash 2017'll start on December 18!


Announcing Winter Bash 2017 ...

December 18, 2017 (Mon) –> January 7, 2018 (Sun)

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    Curious how you connected that line to 2016 (because it's not the correct year). The three clues were the second line of each rhyme. ;) – animuson Nov 18 '17 at 6:46
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    @animuson I haven't figured out which year is the correct year, but there was a TV show, Royal Pains, that ended in 2016. – Catija Nov 18 '17 at 12:48
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    @Catija Oh man you all give me too much credit for the amount of effort I put into this. If you're still looking at winters past, maybe just look for keywords in past hats? – animuson Nov 18 '17 at 15:17
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    @animuson I did recall the "A link to the past" hat from Winter Bash 2013, so if that's the year, Winter Bash 2017'll start on Dec 15, 2017 :) – Panda Nov 18 '17 at 15:23
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    @animuson Actually, searching Google for "royal pain" is easier than going through old hat lists. – Catija Nov 18 '17 at 15:27
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    @Catija Maybe for you, but not for an employee with easy access to all the past lists. ;) – animuson Nov 18 '17 at 17:06
  • @animuson "Castle" ended in 2016, too, according to IMDB. – mrflash818 Nov 20 '17 at 3:38
  • Huzzah! ==> winterbash2017.stackexchange.com – mrflash818 Nov 29 '17 at 18:35
  • December 18, 2017 (Mon) does not match to the date promoted at winterbash2017.stackexchange.com → it is Dec 13, 2017 – Beat Dec 6 '17 at 9:04

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