This now deleted question (10k only) stated that questions by new users are generally received worse than other questions. It was based on anecdotal (n=1) evidence, but are there some statistics from e.g. SEDE to support this observation or not?
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My question scores on stack overflow are awful, can confirm!– Kevin BApr 25, 2018 at 20:50
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1Jon Skeet just receives upvotes for showing up anywhere. Just my 2¢ :3– πάντα ῥεῖApr 25, 2018 at 21:00
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Related Blog post: Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming. It’s Time for That to Change– DarkCygnusApr 26, 2018 at 20:28
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Yes; questions by users which are newly registered (less than one month) are less well received than questions asked by users who have more experience on the site. This could be research by Captain Obvious, but if you dig deeper, there seems to be an interesting trend. According to this SEDE query, the average question score on Stack Overflow decreases when you look at accounts older than a year:
Questions by users with an account of about 4 years are (on average) just as 'good' as questions by 'newbies'. If you 'zoom in' to the first year (with this SEDE query), you see that already after a few weeks, the score is nearly equal to the 2.25 average for the rest of the first year.
It's also interesting to investigate the behaviour on other sites. Mathematics does not observe a decrease after a year. On English Language & Usage there's a small downward trend but not as much as Stack Overflow (the zigzag at the end is caused by the small number of data points). On Meta the trend is upwards.
But all sites exhibit the same behaviour for new (< 1 month old) users, which is not surprising since it takes some time to 'know' the Stack Exchange culture and how to phrase your question. Note that the SEDE query does not include posts which were deleted (often by Roomba) due to their low quality. New users are more likely to post these, but those have already been filtered out.
Actually, upon further investigation, the trend on Stack Overflow seems to be skewed by old, highly upvoted questions. Those were only posted by users which were at that time new. This SEDE query shows that more recent questions follow the same trend as e.g. Meta Stack Exchange:
Another case of Lies, damned lies and statistics?
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1Thanks @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ - something went wrong in refactoring that sentence.– Glorfindel ModApr 25, 2018 at 20:54
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A controlled experiment could be to post very similarly structured questions from a medium rep participant and a very low rep participant. These could help us tease out the difference between perceptions affecting voting trends, and the learning curve, i.e. participants' questions improving objectively in quality of questions as the participants gain experience with the site in general and also with writing questions. Apr 26, 2018 at 5:28
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1Interesting trend on the Meta query. Could this suggest newbies have a harder time here than on SO? Apr 26, 2018 at 5:29
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1Also, seems that in the case of Answers, it is a different story: for SO it is almost the same, while Mathematics and Meta show some clear trends. Apr 26, 2018 at 5:37
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Good stuff Glorfindel. But I think the important issue is that highly-upvoted questions and answers tend to get more upvotes. And the high-rep user is more likely to have buddies who will immediately upvote his question or answer regardless of its quality. I don't know how stats could show that. Apr 26, 2018 at 7:14
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2@JohnDuffield - You have absolutely no proof that "high reputation users" have "buddies" who vote on their contributions.– RamhoundApr 26, 2018 at 10:14
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3@JohnDuffield oh please, there is nothing as much fun on SO as voting down a bad Q/A from a high-rep user, especially if you 'know' them! Sadly, doesn't happen very often, whereas finding a bad question from a new user just means opening a tag and poking at the screen with your eyes shut. That' not entertaining at all:( Apr 26, 2018 at 12:05
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If anything, it's low-rep users who are most likely to have umm... 'upvoting buddies'. Has there ever been a case of a skilled,. experienced and respected high-rep user running sock-puppets and/or voting-rings to inflate their rep? Apr 26, 2018 at 12:11
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@MartinJames yes (that question does not contain all details, though)– Glorfindel ModApr 26, 2018 at 12:31
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The stats make me wonder if the FAQ and help for new users is ok to start with, as with users with experience in the site methodology get better score. I guess users learn how to write a good question to get result, as SO vs a normal forum is really not the same Apr 26, 2018 at 12:53
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@Ramhound : let's not go into "gaming the system" today. Your comment noted Martin James. Another good one Glorfindel. Apr 26, 2018 at 15:42
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@JohnDuffield - I never once made mention of Martin James So I am not sure, if you confused me with somebody else, but please keep track of whom directing comments to.– RamhoundApr 26, 2018 at 16:53
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The shown statistics don't say anything about the quality of questions asked by new users, anyway.– apadernoApr 26, 2018 at 18:45
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