When you look at the Area 51 proposal for Writing StackExchange, it displays as Writers. But, when you head to the actual site, it gives its name as Writing. Is this because the name has been edited since proposal? If so, why hasn't it been updated?
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1writers.stackexchange.com redirects to writing.stackexchange.com– MEEFeb 23, 2019 at 19:59
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1But why the difference in name?– LordologyFeb 23, 2019 at 20:00
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2I didn't downvote, but if you searched for name change on meta.writing.stackexchange, you would find this post as first result. Some people might see this as low-effort.– MEEFeb 23, 2019 at 20:04
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Not you. I didn't @username you. But thanks for not.– LordologyFeb 23, 2019 at 20:04
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sorry I submitted my comment too early. I was pinged because I was the only one commenting on this post (except for you)– MEEFeb 23, 2019 at 20:05
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5You can't delete questions if they have an upvoted or multiple answers.– Catija StaffModFeb 23, 2019 at 20:12
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More info on that here.– Pika Supports UkraineFeb 23, 2019 at 20:13
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1I really think other people will find future value in this, even though it has been heavily downvoted.– Pika Supports UkraineFeb 23, 2019 at 20:14
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It's okay, everyone posts questions that get downvoted on meta. -4 really isn't that low, though.– Pika Supports UkraineFeb 23, 2019 at 20:17
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@SupaMegaDuckyMomodaWaffle True ;)– LordologyFeb 23, 2019 at 20:18
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If you really want to see a low scoring answer, look here. The interesting thing is, the author only lost 168 reputation even though it scores under -200.– Pika Supports UkraineFeb 23, 2019 at 20:19
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And here's an even lower-scoring question.– Pika Supports UkraineFeb 23, 2019 at 20:21
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@SupaMegaDuckyMomodaWaffle let's got to chat– LordologyFeb 23, 2019 at 20:22
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2Let us continue this discussion in chat.– LordologyFeb 23, 2019 at 20:22
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Area 51 is out of date. "Writers" changed to "Writing" last year.
Some of the time, the Area 51 proposal has been manually edited to reflect changes. You can see the revision history by clicking on "X years ago" under "edited" in the sidebar on Area 51 (if you don't see this, it probably hasn't ever been edited; it works just like posts). Movies is a good example of a Area 51 proposal that was edited after its expansion in name/scope to "Movies and TV". "Beer" was also edited to be "Beer, Wine, and Spirits" two years ago.
For whatever reason, the moderation team hasn't yet updated the names of many sites. "Community Building" is still "Moderators" despite that change happing many years ago. "Psychology and Neuroscience" is still "Cognitive Sciences". There's no "Veganism" in the listing for Veganism & Vegetarianism. The list goes on, even though there's really no good reason for these changes to the name not to be made. The reason is probably just that nobody thought to make these changes.
And then there's that site that's had several name changes: "Not Programming Related" to "Programmers" to now "Software Engineering". Area 51 still says "Not Programming Related". Because of the drastic scope change, the description for the proposal was edited and there's a banner mentioning all these changes. Not mentioning all this history would make proposed questions like "What's good music for programmers to listen to?" seem way out of place. I think this is the exception rather than the rule.
The Stack Overflow in <Language> proposals are also exceptions, since they are listed with an English name and a bilingual description in Area 51, something that wouldn't be good on the actual site.
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Have any of the proposed sites on Area 51 been synchronized with the name of the site later? If not, then it seems likely that this hasn't been done because it isn't expected. That the Area 51 name refers to the proposed site, not the current beta or launched site. Feb 23, 2019 at 22:42
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@NicolBolas The names on Area 51 refer to the site's name while it was still being defined. I've never seen it updated after a site graduated. Just as an example, Software Engineering graduated, but it's still shown as Not Programming Related on area 51. Feb 23, 2019 at 22:49
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1@SupaM: That's the point I'm getting at. Saying "Area 51 is out of date" assumes that A51 is supposed to be kept "up to date" with the current site's name. Similarly, "hasn't yet updated" implies that the intent is that it will be updated. I'm asking if there is a reason for this implication, if there was a statement or expectation for them to match which isn't being met currently. Contrast that with MSOGA's answer, who simply states that they are "different entities" and thus are not supposed to be kept "up to date". Feb 23, 2019 at 22:56
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1@NicolBolas People searching for a site on Area 51 shouldn't have to know the old name of the site to search for it. Likewise, it's confusing to click on a link to one site and be taken to a site with a different name on Area 51 (even though they are the same site). This, combined with the fact that I can't really make rhyme or reason out of which ones get updated and which don't lead me to believe that there isn't much rhyme or reason and that they just forgot to update some of the pages.– LaurelFeb 23, 2019 at 23:45