# Unupvote loses you more rep than downvote

User A has 5 reputation. User A posts an answer and receives:

upvote +10 then
unupvote -10 rep = 5 (neutral feedback)

upvote + 10 then
downvote -2 rep = 13 (negative feedback)

How come user A ends up with more rep when he receives negative feedback than when he receives neutral feedback (essentially no feedback)

Is this a problem?

• This is normal. Upvote is +10 rep. If this is cancelled, the +10 is undone.
– user447378
Apr 5, 2019 at 3:25

How come user A ends up with more rep when he receives negative feedback than when he receives neutral feedback (essentially no feedback)

A single user can't both up-, down- and not vote all at once, on a single post. You can upvote and unupvote/downvote shortly after, but that cancels your upvote. So, starting with user A and B:

If user A receives negative feedback from user B, their reputation would be 3, and they would end up with less reputation than they'd have with no feedback at all.
If user A receives no feedback (or an upvote/unupvote, downvote/undownvote) from user B, their reputation would remain 5.
If user A receives positive feedback from user B, their reputation goes up by 10 points to 15.

After having received positive feedback, A is at 15 reputation. Then user C comes in, with negative feedback, and A ends up with 13 reputation. Which is less than the 15 they started with before the negative feedback. So the negative feedback did cost them reputation.

The error in your calculation is that you assume `an upvote + a downvote = negative feedback`, while you should think of it as only `downvote = 'negative feedback'`.

• A single user can up-, down- and not! Feb 24, 2019 at 10:37
• @Lordology not all at once. If you've upvoted something you can downvote it but that cancels the upvote. I'll clarify.
– Tinkeringbell Mod
Feb 24, 2019 at 10:42

## No, it is not a problem.

You earn reputation when:

• +1: You cancel your own downvote
• +2: Suggested edit is accepted // you accept an answer // downvote is removed from your question or answer
• +5: Your question is upvoted
• +Half bounty amount: One of your answers is awarded a bounty automatically
• +100: Association Bonus

You lose reputation when:

• -1: You downvote an answer