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Update May 2 2019

I noticed this question received more down-votes recently even though it has been inactive for some time now. I'm not really sure I understand the point of this? I have tried to delete this question, but am unable to. I would post a picture of what I'm talking about, although that seams to not be working either. so here is a link.

I am very sorry about what happened with my previous question, although I am not sure I understand how it ended up on Literature to begin with. Or why it was suddenly demoted from suspected-duplicate to duplicate while I was still in the process of editing it, and collecting my list of sources.

I listed 6 questions, in my question, that I think are all related, of which none have been marked as duplicate. I'm not sure I agree that my question is a duplicate, and if it is one, I don't think it is one of what was cited. StackExchange is a pretty uniques system for Q&A, and certainly my first choice when looking on the internet for answers to stuff. I think though that there is always room for improvement, and I was only trying to contribute to discussion about how search results could be enhanced. You know, come to think of it, the feature I was looking for could perhaps be implemented by a third party website. Simply combine searches between selected topics. Although actually it would be impossible to do any sort of cross-over-reputation scheme through a third party website.

I'm not sure this question is the right place to post suggestions for feature requests, it's just, I noticed someone down-voted it. This question is more than a month old, and hasn't had any activity in a while. I don't think it would show up in anyone's feed? This suggests to me that someone did this deliberately to hurt my rep here on META.

Perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps it is all random.

Still, my meta rep is currently at 2 now.

So I guess I'll leave you by saying I am very sorry for my drastic actions from 9 days ago, although I was only reacting to some abrupt and suspicious behavior from my vantage point. The pace on META can be startling for someone coming from another site/topic. I am glad to learn it was only a mistake.

Still, I'm kind of sad I didn't get a better reception. I think I had some valid points to my question, and think that it added some nuance to the whole question of duplicates, and possible solutions to finding specific Q&A. I guess others may not see things the same way.

It is kind of bothersome that after all this I'm basically back to where I started. I'm glad though that my contributions elsewhere on SE seem mostly unaffected by all this, although the down-voting is starting to seem vindictive. If this is going to be my reception on META, I suppose I will have to rethink my involvement here.

Sincerely my best regards, kipplebits

p.s. check edits for original content of this question. It was so specific to my case, I don't see how it could be useful to anyone other than as a head on a spike to ward off any other troublemakers... I did receive assurance that no comments were lost, although now I'm sort of wondering why they weren't deleted if they were in fact off topic?

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    but the issue I have is that some of the comments that were moved were relevant to further clarification of the question You could edit your question to include the helpful comments. – MoonRunestar Mar 14 at 15:37
  • I think there was an error while migrating my comments to chat, I think perhaps one of my comments failed to move over, and was lost. It went something like "Your have to be pretty drunk to black out, like near fall down drunk". Its sometimes hard to fit everything you want into comments, and sadly I did not keep a record of my initial comments. Did I mess up, or was it deleted by accident? Is there a way to check this? – kipbits Mar 14 at 17:07
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    None of the comments were deleted. They were all moved to chat intact. – Carey Gregory Mar 14 at 20:34
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I don't see anything problematic here.

Just to be clear I am only talking about saving the first 5 comments (not all that long), so the issue is just whether or not they deserve to be lumped in with an off-topic chat?

The first five comments had already drifted into personal advice. If there's valuable information added in your comments, edit it into the question - you still have it preserved in chat. If there's valuable information in Bryan's comments that constitutes an answer, encourage him to write an answer.

Users on our sites should not expect to need to read comments in order to get the full picture of a question. They should be able to ignore the comments section entirely and be able to do a credible job answering. So, edit in any information!

Should these comments have been moved? And is there a process to restore them at this point?

Yes, they should have. There's no real need to leave some of them behind in most cases. They can be undeleted in this case as any comment deleted by a moderator can be undeleted but I don't see a reason to.

Perhaps what I'm really trying to get at is, does it really help Stack Exchange to have links to long off-topic chats? Why not just delete the part where it went off topic?

We make these chat rooms as a courtesy. Chat is a great place to build community and encourage collaboration. We think that discussions are great things to have on our sites - in the right place (chat) - so we don't necessarily want to quash them unless they're outright abusive. So, we give you a place to move the conversation - the UI even allows you to create a chat room yourself after a certain number of exchanged messages.

Mods can absolutely just delete the comments if they wish. They make that choice frequently on their sites. As a moderator I deleted thousands of comments on the site I moderated in less than a year and moved few of them to chat.

Your mod likely felt that retaining the discussion was worth it. Alternately, deleting the comments outright often creates complaints of their own - users upset their discussion was deleted entirely. So sometimes moving to chat is a way of avoiding that.


I can confirm that none of the comments are missing. Twelve were removed and twelve were transferred into chat. I can't speak to why you remember a comment that you didn't post but there was neither an error nor any duplicity on the part of the moderators here.

  • I'm not sure I understand why it is personal advice, and not constructive, we were talking about working-memory vs longterm-memory, and whether the medical definition of consciousness is inclusive of coherency, which was kind of what the question was about. Other than that, I guess it really is your call. You guys are the mods. So a chat it is then. I guess now I just have to figure out how to word this nuance into an answer. – kipbits Mar 14 at 22:53
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    @kipbits As I said before, there's nothing wrong with your question. Quit focusing on the comments. I'm afraid you may actually have deterred people from answering because you've made such an issue about it that they don't want to get tangled up in the drama. – Carey Gregory Mar 15 at 1:22
  • @CareyGregory thanks for the tip, perhaps I will try and write an answer in the near future and then delete all my comments. – kipbits Mar 15 at 1:44

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