The latest revision of the Code of Conduct removes the phrase “Be kind and friendly" entirely.

What was the rationale?

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    Where are you going with this?
    – user102937
    Oct 14 '19 at 23:16
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    It seems like an important phrase, so I wonder why it was removed. Oct 14 '19 at 23:42
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    Copy editing. What were you expecting, some profound reason? Design by committee. A desire to focus the CoC more closely on social issues.
    – user102937
    Oct 14 '19 at 23:44
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    It's all about priorities. Until recently, you could not say "His code is cr4p", but had to say "His code should be improved". Now you can no longer say "His code should be improved", but ... I think you could say "Their code is cr4p"..(?) *scratches head* *looks it up*... nah, probably not that either. But seriously: It basically was rephrased, and replaced with a mix of even more ambiguous requirements on the one hand, and irritatingly specific ones on the other.
    – Marco13
    Oct 14 '19 at 23:47
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    Related: We need “assume good intent” back in the Code of Conduct
    – user204841
    Oct 14 '19 at 23:48
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    @Marco13 Calling someone's code "cr4p" would not be "respectful" so nothing has really changed here. A lot of things about how the recent changes were rolled out were done very badly, but this isn't one of them. Oct 15 '19 at 10:05
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    @user568458 You might have missed the humor. But to address this point: When someone dumps a homework assignment here, with (objectively!) cr4ppy code and the question "Solve urgend help plz!", then I don't respect that person. Of course, I would try to keep some basic decency, and e.g. not be personally insulting and such. But "respect" is something that has to be earned. Nobody can be forced to respect someone else. One can be forced to behave as if one respected that person (namely: Be kind and friendly!), but not to actually do it. And that's only one problem...
    – Marco13
    Oct 15 '19 at 14:24
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    better question is what happened to assume good intent ...
    – user148287
    Oct 15 '19 at 15:10

"Be kind and friendly" was replaced with "Be inclusive and respectful" in an attempt to "build a more welcoming and inclusive community".

This doesn't mean that we shouldn't be kind or friendly anymore though. The Code of Conduct still mentions "(un)friendly" in four places and "kind(ness)" in three.

As the announcement says, replacing the specific phrasing is not "a change to our policy" but a "clarification".

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    In the grand scheme of things, this particular change seems pretty minor and unobjectionable Oct 15 '19 at 10:03
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    I would have preferred "Be kind and inclusive" personally as the optimal choice of 2 out of these 4, but this still works fine. Oct 15 '19 at 18:24
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    They're not at all the same. 'Be kind and friendly' trusts each person to find a way to each be kind and friendly to each other. 'Be inclusive and respectful', however, mandates the current definition of 'inclusion' which does not trust each person to act kindly and, therefore, requires the definition and enforcement of an ever-growing list of rules (as seen in the new COC). Oct 18 '19 at 0:19

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