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Since my answer to the original CoC FAQ had been deleted right away, I had published my position on the CoC change in the "about" section of my profile (all of my profiles to be precise). This has been edited (in all profiles) and large parts were removed without notice or explanation.

I want to know

  1. Who did that?
  2. Why?

Edit 1 (2019-10-24)

To clear up possible confusion: yes, I essentially copy/pasted my statement from the deleted answer into my profile. The wording was changed slightly in some places, but the overall message remained the same.

Edit 2 (2019-10-24)

To clarify further, I'm not interested in speculation what other people think the reason for the deletion might have been. I want to know who deleted the text and what that person's reason was.

Edit 3 (2019-10-30)

The moderator flag was declined with the canned response "flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention". Apparently flagging for moderator attention is not the way to go about this issue, so I opened a support ticket (#85226).

Edit 4 (2019-11-13)

The automatic response to the support request said

We have received your request and a ticket has been created. For your reference, your ticket number is 85226. We strive to respond within 1 business day, but response times can vary. Thank you for your patience, and we'll respond as soon as we can.

That was 2 weeks ago. Since then: radio silence.

So, apparently there actually wasn't anything wrong with what I said in my "about me" section. I guess I'll be exerting my human right of free speech then.

Edit 5 (2019-11-29)

A week ago (on 2019-11-22) my Meta SE account was suspended and the content of my "about me" section deleted again. Only this time there was a moderator message:

We wanted to let you know that we've observed some rudeness in your latest activity. We get it; anyone who's ever tried to engage with others online has probably been tempted to lash out at someone else. This is just a friendly reminder that we require all participants to act in a professional and civil tone when using these sites. If another user has wronged you in some way, please do not respond in kind. Simply flag the content for moderator attention and move on.

Referring to the usage of neopronouns as "lunacy" is rude. Not understanding something doesn't make it crazy. You are free to disagree with the usage but you may not malign the people who use them.

We have temporarily suspended your account; you may return after 7 days.

So apparently what used to be the policy

in the rare cases where what's there is likely to be truly offensive to large groups of seemingly reasonable people, we may not allow it

has now been thrown out of the window and replaced with

in any case where what's there might be considered offensive to anyone by someone, we may not allow it

So, as promised, I've terminated my activity on Stack Overflow and all other Stack Exchange network sites. This is my last update, just to wrap things up.

Oh, and if anyone still believes there is no agenda at play here, ask yourself: Why was my account not suspended the first time? Why did they keep radio silence for weeks despite me reaching out repeatedly and requesting clarification? Why wait until the controversy around the CoC change had died down considerably before making this move? And why suspend only the account I'm least active in, despite the statement being on all of my profiles? Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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    Since you are not looking for "discussion" it is unclear what you are actually looking for here. Since you state that this is not your first post on meta presumably you know that you should contact moderators or CM for matters that you don't want to publicly discuss. – Alexei Levenkov Oct 23 at 23:18
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    I think you should tag this post as [support] rather than [discussion]. – Script47 Oct 23 at 23:21
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    Given that your post was highly offensive... I'm not surprised it got removed. It's policy to remove offensive content, even in profiles where it's usually your own space. – ArtOfCode Oct 23 at 23:24
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    You might want to use the contact us link instead of asking here; it might get you a more effective answer. – Jason C Oct 24 at 0:24
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    @LаngLаngС The implication of this post is that Ansgar posted, verbatim, the content of their earlier post into their profile. Given that I can see the original post, if that assumption is true, then my earlier comment holds. – ArtOfCode Oct 24 at 1:04
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    I believe that only moderators can change other people's profile pages (it is not a privilege given to "trusted users", who have accumulated much rep). So a moderator must have removed it because they thought removing it was the right thing to do. But it seems you think they have done something wrong. So the FAQ What recourse do I have if I believe a moderator has abused their privileges? is relevant. – Raedwald Oct 24 at 9:36
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    If you are complaining about a moderator action, the FAQ says you should raise a moderator flag or contact SE directly. It does not say to post a question to MSE. So this question is either a duplicate of that FAQ or should not be here at all. – Raedwald Oct 24 at 9:38
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    @Raedwald I reject your insinuation that my profile was offensive. Something doesn't automagically become offensive just because some people take offense. Otherwise I expect the CoC change to be repealed immediately, because I most certainly am offended by it. – Ansgar Wiechers Oct 24 at 16:07
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    @AnsgarWiechers You already admitted that your profile was close to a copy of a post that was already deleted for being offensive. And someone who can read the deleted post has confirmed that it was offensive. I've insinuated nothing. – Raedwald Oct 24 at 16:13
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    @Raedwald Oh, I did read them. Perhaps you should try that yourself. And then maybe explain how you think my profile qualifies as "truly offensive to large groups of seemingly reasonable people". Or come to the realization that the conclusion might not be quite as obvious as you make it out to be. – Ansgar Wiechers Oct 24 at 16:34
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    @AnsgarWiechers Doesn't the fact that identical content was deleted as "rude and abusive" (whether justified or not, I can't see deleted posts so I can't say myself) count as a warning that identical content would also not be tolerated in your profile? – divibisan Oct 24 at 16:38
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    @Raedwald "You already admitted that your profile was close to a copy of a post that was already deleted for being offensive." No, I admitted that I copied an answer that was deleted, period. No reason or explanation for the deletion was given that time either. Please keep your imagination in check. – Ansgar Wiechers Oct 24 at 17:47
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    @AnsgarWiechers listen, if you can't see how your original answer was, at the very least, rude right now, then no answer here is going to help you. – Rubiksmoose Oct 25 at 11:49
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    I find your last update worrying since the caned response blatantly contradicts the FAQ. – Stop harming Monica Oct 30 at 19:11
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Given your stance on the CoC changes (according to what is left on your profile) - being “something stupid”, or more likely, a small matter - it would also take a similar amount of effort to attempt not to make assumptions based off of display names, and if you slip up, admit to making the wrong assumption and attempt to correct yourself from then on

The issue that the CoC is trying to stop, is users treating other members of the community differently when they are correcting someone on an assumption based on a display name and a photo alone.

Many of those who are asking for this change fall under “he/she/they” pronouns, “they” being the most common neutral choice.

A well known choice, “they” comes in handy when referring to “user2948162”, amongst others. The change asks you to refer to people in that manner, unless they’ve informed you that that’s not what they go by, and to correct yourself if you make the wrong assumption.

Use neutral as a preference, and - if using gendered pronouns and are asked to use a non-binary one - try to keep on topic and answer the question without treating that user differently to “user2948162” correcting you when you called him “she”

But that’s mere speculation on what remains

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    Around 150 users have expressed their pronominal preferences in their profiles. Some of these are trolls, but most are legitimate. It's probably best just to quietly clear the most obvious and offensive trolls found there without making a big deal of it. And yes, the OP is amongst those listed, but the SEDE search criteria used there for that query aren't tight enough to say troll-vs-no-troll; it takes human inspection — and judgement — applied to each to decide yay or nay or meh. – tchrist Oct 23 at 23:51
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    Does somebody really get to say that they, don't go under the pronoun "they"? "They" is a gender neutral pronoun. It's not making any assertions about a persons gender at all. – Gregory Currie Oct 24 at 0:35
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    @GregoryCurrie yes, as has been discussed – De Novo supports GoFundMonica Oct 24 at 0:55
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    That makes an 'official answer' to the core of this Q all the more interesting: If "what's left" is still considered 'offensive/controcersial', where was/is the line? (I cannot share your angle on motivation: "intended to disrupt constructive feedback" – that seems unconfirmable for me or you in principle?) – Are profiles "intended for any feedback"? // There is no docs I'm aware of sanctioning that what I read from the above Flag abusive users – LаngLаngС Oct 24 at 0:58
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    @LаngLаngС the subject of the contents of the profile are controversial. The CoC changes have been sparking controversy across the site for a number of weeks. The controversial part I’m talking about is where it’s stated that the subject is “stupid”. That in itself has been a large part of the controversy recently. I’m attempting to clarify what the newest CoC changes suggest are best policy, and attempting to reassure the OP that they’re most likely not going to be effected by this change. If that changes their stance, then their profile content may be changed by them willingly. – Kyle Fairns Oct 24 at 1:03
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    @tchrist, going through that list, I count about 20% trolls, 20% "whatever", 1% recognizable neo-pronouns, and the rest "he/she/they". – Mark Oct 24 at 1:28
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    @tchrist you've filtered out way too many users. LIKE is case-sensitive - you should lower(aboutme) to increase accuracy. In addition, many users just state their pronouns without writingout pronoun(s) in the about me. If you need an example, from what I can tell, it also filtered me away – Zoe Oct 24 at 5:16
  • @Zoethetransgirl Thanks. Case sensitivity depends on how the schema table and columns are set up, and I'd guessed a ci collation. I had run other queries with various slash combos, but there were a lot of false positives. Search for queries with "pronoun" in the title. – tchrist Oct 24 at 5:21
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    @GregoryCurrie - If I need to make a white list (call me he/she/ze/xe/him/her/...) as opposed to a black list (don't call me they) it is going to be infinitely harder for passing users to comprehend. However you have a second question tucked in there: Do users need to justify their pronoun usage? A separate can of worms that one! – RyanfaeScotland Oct 30 at 14:49
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There is nothing stopping you putting a link to your deleted answer (https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/334900/official-faq-on-gender-pronouns-and-code-of-conduct-changes/334967#334967) on your profile and asking users with enough rep to make up their own mind.

Doing so has not got my profile edited yet....

PS, I agree with your answer but would not have said it in public, as I don't think it will change anything.

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    The post is invisible to users with less than 10K. – Mari-Lou A Oct 24 at 14:17

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