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I've always found the name of the Teachers' Lounge to be mildly condescending, as if those who inhabit it see themselves as holding a superior position over the common users. This isn't what was originally envisioned with moderators being "human exception handlers", but a system in which moderators are implied to be smarter and/or more educated than ordinary users and are expected to use pedagogical and/or disciplinary tactics to mold users into better users.

Let's get rid of this unnecessary social metaphor and rename the room. To be clear, I'm not proposing that we get rid of the room, but that we change the name to something like:

  • Moderators Lounge
  • Moderators Confidential Chatroom
  • Moderation Discussion Center
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    I think that Teacher is an great term for a moderator. They are here to help users to learn how to participate on the site and maintain order. There is an implication that they know more, but that implication is generally true: They typically know more about how a site works and how it is run. – Nathan Merrill Oct 28 '19 at 13:59
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    People seem to think the TL is somehow far more significant than it is. Yes, a conversation in there was directly connected to the current situation, but apart from that, the TL is nothing but a smaller version of the Tavern. It really is just a chat room in which a few mods hang out. Trying to convert it into something larger than it is seems pointless. – terdon Oct 28 '19 at 13:59
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    Perhaps this will disappoint you, but "Tavern on the Meta" isn't really a tavern either. – Bart Oct 28 '19 at 14:01
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    But... But... The Tavern contains users... – user351483 Oct 28 '19 at 14:08
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    .... THEN WHAT HAVE PEOPLE BEEN DRINKING? – Journeyman Geek Oct 28 '19 at 14:13
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    Given all of the "If you can't do, teach" rhetoric that gets bandied around these days, I wonder how many people would consider teachers to be 'superior' in any case. Most of the teachers I know just feel battered down and assaulted from every side, be it from students, parents, school administrators, education boards or government policies etc. – Mark Booth Oct 28 '19 at 14:28
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    @MarkBooth that sounds rather apropos considering the current climate that moderators are confronted with here ... – Vogel612's Shadow Oct 28 '19 at 14:53
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    @NathanMerrill I strongly disagree (and I'm a moderator). Mods might in general tend to have a good knowledge of the SE system, but that doesn't usually make us "teachers" of anyone else, except maybe in support meta posts. It's also not true in general, as I've seen some mods with shockingly poor knowledge of how SE works. I don't want my mod diamond to imply I know more than others; I'm perfectly willing to be mistaken, to be educated by other users, and all mods should be. – Rand al'Thor Oct 28 '19 at 15:20
  • "Mods with shockingly poor knowledge of how SE works" sounds like a poor mod. I agree that mods can be mistaken, but I'm also think that teachers can be mistaken as well. – Nathan Merrill Oct 28 '19 at 15:28
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    The position of teacher is not a condescending one; being a teacher doesn't evoke a superior position. It's really more interesting and instructive when both learnee and teachers do not see teachers as superior. – Félix Gagnon-Grenier Oct 29 '19 at 3:03
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because I think naming their chat room is something only the participants of a chat room should decide. – PolyGeo Feb 21 at 7:49
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Uhm.

Quite honestly?

You're never going to see it until you become a mod. Most people spend their entire lives not knowing it exists.

Also, If we're going to ever rename it.

It should be...

The Mod Squad.

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    No. "The Bat Cave" – user351483 Oct 28 '19 at 13:58
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    Fortress of Moditude? Okay, that was bad. – fbueckert Oct 28 '19 at 14:00
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    (@fbueckert to be clear--my upvote on the comment is for "Fortress of Moditude," not for the assessment that it's bad word-play.) – nitsua60 Oct 28 '19 at 14:13
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    Modern Family. – nitsua60 Oct 28 '19 at 14:14
  • "Most people spend their entire lives not knowing it exists." this wording unfortunately sounds quite bleak. It suggests there are many, many people there with lifespan less than (roughly) a decade. They've been born and died all while TL existed. – VLAZ Oct 28 '19 at 14:40
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    The Mod Squad? And not "The Diamond Mines"? – Thomas Owens Oct 28 '19 at 15:49
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    Ooooooooo...The Diamond Mines. Shiny! – anongoodnurse Oct 28 '19 at 15:59
  • @ThomasOwens: Brilliant! – V2Blast Oct 29 '19 at 23:12
  • I could prefer "principal's office", a bit more business-like. – ChrisW Feb 21 at 10:11
  • @user351483: The bats are in bad standing now (though no fault of their own) – P.Mort. - forgot Clay Shirky_q Apr 28 at 18:01
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I have no skin in this game and no strong opinion either way, but as the person who invented this name in a distant past, I thought I'd leave my two cents here.

For me, my experience with teachers has rarely been one of "having power and showing it". The best teachers I've had, both here in Germany and in my 12th grade exchange year in the U.S., always tried to be collaborative with their students and made class about mutual learning.

And my limited exposure to actual teachers' lounges has seemed much more of a social hangout, and less of the place from the Simpsons where teachers make fun of the students and plot how to best make their lives worse.

So anyway, that's the perspective from which I created that name. But I do acknowledge that probably not everyone has had the same experience with teachers.

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Rename the Teachers' Lounge

This will never happen as the name fits, and there is a bit of tradition here.

But if they were to do so, I think a better name might be Simm City. Sin City sounds cool, but may offend some. Best leave it be.

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