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A question ban can be lifted only if you improve existing questions, see here.

However, there might be situations where it is impossible to improve existing questions, namely if the user has posted only great (impossible to further improve substantially) and horrible (impossible to improve, only worth deleting) questions, but no mediocre (possible to improve) questions.

Some of the disadvantages of this system are:

  • It makes it impossible for some users to get out of a question ban.
  • It encourages users to post mediocre questions just in case, so that later they can get out of a question ban by improving these questions. These questions can remain mediocre for any amount of time, including forever.

Is there no better way?

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    They've been warned several times before running into get banned, so what? – πάντα ῥεῖ Nov 17 '19 at 18:23
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    Also banned users get a chance to ask a (better) question every 6 months. – πάντα ῥεῖ Nov 17 '19 at 18:30
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    What's with all the downvotes... seems to be a legitimate, well thought out question. – JW0914 Nov 17 '19 at 20:36
  • It's a moot question anyway. Someone who gets question banned will not be posting any great questions. – JK. Nov 17 '19 at 20:42
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    @JK I would agree that most will not be, but it's factually inaccurate to imply all would not be. Does Stack Exchange offer a FAQs page that discusses banning? If not, how could the author's question be moot? – JW0914 Nov 17 '19 at 20:46
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    @JW0914 - The question is based on an incorrect understanding of the current system. For instance, the first sentence, is factually incorrect, improving existing questions isn't the only way to get out of a question ban. Submitting a high-quality question in 6 months, which receives upvotes, would accomplish that goal. – Ramhound Nov 17 '19 at 20:53
  • Of course I meant earlier than after 6 months. – root Nov 18 '19 at 9:30
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    I have rolled back to previous revision. Your edit has invalidated existing answers. If you want to discuss getting out of the ban earlier you should ask new question. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/286803/… – Resistance Is Futile Nov 18 '19 at 9:48
  • How often is this actually happening? – EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica Nov 18 '19 at 14:29
  • Have you any examples of such h outliers who have posted only great and bad questions, (I'm guessing no). – Martin James Nov 18 '19 at 16:51
  • @HerMajestyQueenofARC I want to discuss what I wrote. The fact that the answers so far took some little detail of my original formulation and blew it out of proportion to pretend like my question is invalid is annoying. – root Nov 19 '19 at 16:22
  • You asked the question. You got the answers based on what you originally asked. Your edits are invalidating existing answers. If you want you can always ask new question. – Resistance Is Futile Nov 19 '19 at 17:19
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It makes it impossible for some users to get out of a question ban.

That's incorrect. The post-ban is more like a throttling mechanism than a flat out ban. A ”banned” user gets a chance to publish another post each 6 months. Even if a banned user has no posts that can be improved, they can use that opportunity to make another post. If the reception is good enough, this will help them to get out of the ”ban”.

It encourages users to post mediocre questions just in case, so that later they can get out of a question ban by improving these questions. These questions can remain mediocre for any amount of time, including forever.

This doesn't make much sense. I would say it encourages users to post better than "mediocre" questions, since that's the best way not to get banned in the first place.

Planning for a ban seems unwise, and that strategy a no-starter.

  • Of course I meant earlier than after 6 months. For the second part, you misunderstood. Mediocre questions don't get you banned. – root Nov 18 '19 at 9:31
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    Actually, just asking mediocre questions (questions without upvotes, that don't elicit answers) is a great recipe to get on the brink of a question ban. It's terrible strategy. Re: earlier six months pass, a user has all the time of the world before getting banned. If they only ask bad/mediocre questions, and have absolutely no salvageable questions... well, maybe the ban is not such a bad thing. – yivi Nov 18 '19 at 9:38
  • Six months is an absurd length of time to make someone wait. – user234461 Nov 18 '19 at 11:18
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    Not just 'someone'. The banned user has to put in a lot of effort, assembling and posting bad questions and ignoring warnings, to get the ban. It takes a special kind of user to treat the existing SE users in such a selfish, uncaring, cavalier manner:( – Martin James Nov 18 '19 at 16:49
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Planning mediocre questions just to get out of a ban should be ban-worthy by itself. I've heard some pretty stupid ideas, but where did you get the idea doing this would be constructive to a Q&A site? If you get a warning, heed it. Now you won't get question banned. There. Done.

The current system isn't perfect. Can it be done differently? Yes. Better? Perhaps. But every method has side-effects and no other method is going to be perfect either.

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    I don't believe the author was endorsing posting mediocre questions, but simply pointing out the obvious, as well as making a legitimate point in the process. – JW0914 Nov 17 '19 at 20:42
  • @JW0914 "It encourages users to post mediocre questions just in case, so that later they can get out of a question ban by improving these questions." Maybe it is not endorsing, but it is certainly not pointing the obvious because ban system nowhere near encourages posting mediocre questions. – Resistance Is Futile Nov 18 '19 at 7:35
  • @HerMajesty sounds like you didn't read the question properly. I removed that part but you can check in the edit history. – root Nov 18 '19 at 9:33
  • @Mast sounds like you didn't read the question properly. I removed that part but you can check in the edit history. You'll find an answer to your first question there. – root Nov 18 '19 at 9:36
  • "No method is prefect" is no excuse for having a possibly suboptimal method and for not discussing alternatives. – root Nov 18 '19 at 9:39
  • @root I read the question properly. I cannot say what you actually meant by that sentence, but it seems that you think that current ban system encourages asking mediocre questions which cannot be farther from the truth and I sincerely cannot say how could anyone ever got to such conclusion. Nobody is forcing anyone to ask questions. – Resistance Is Futile Nov 18 '19 at 9:39
  • Users have chance to ask question after six months. That does not mean they must ask question as soon as they can. That also does not mean they should ask mediocre question because if they ask mediocre question they will most likely not get out of the ban. – Resistance Is Futile Nov 18 '19 at 9:43
  • As the part of not getting out of the ban sooner if you don't have questions worth improving... well, tough luck. It is not like you were not warned this might happen. – Resistance Is Futile Nov 18 '19 at 9:45

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