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tl;dr version: May elected moderators on a specific Stack Exchange site ban users for doing things that the site's community disfavors but that are not against the Code of Conduct?

The Code of Conduct has been (arguably) hashed to death over the past few months, but all that discussion got me to wondering if it is truly the be-all and end-all of conduct rules.

It seems pretty clear that the Code of Conduct (CoC) is mandatory on all Stack Exchange sites and cannot be dispensed with at the will of the community, but what about the opposite scenario? If a community wishes to add conduct rules not included in the CoC, and has the support of the elected community moderators, may the community moderators use their tools to enforce said rules of conduct?

To be clear, I'm well aware that much of the Code of Conduct is contextual and thus many CoC adjudications will depend on local conditions. I'm not talking about that, but about a community coming up with brand-new substantive rules. For example, the current CoC requires everyone to use stated pronouns if known, but does not require ordinary users to affirmatively investigate or inquire into a user's pronouns before making an educated guess. The rule only applies once a user has been made aware of specific pronouns and knowingly and intentionally refuses to use them. If a site wanted to make it mandatory for users to ask for pronouns in advance, would the site's diamond community moderators have the authority to suspend the accounts of users who refuse to do that but still obey the CoC, or would this be considered an abusive misuse of diamond moderator powers, possibly subjecting them to removal?

I'm also not talking about close reasons - it is well-known that the community has some discretion on what closure rules will exist on the site.

As a comment alluded to, it seems obvious at first that the answer must be "yes", but it did occur to me that this could be used in an abusive manner. A site that wanted to keep certain people away could impose arbitrary or discriminatory rules and then "set people up" for suspension (e.g. "It is the will of the community that no user may participate who has not uploaded a current, untouched picture of themselves as their profile picture. Users violating this policy will be suspended for the maximum time that a community moderator is permitted to impose. Asking questions about this policy will result in a six month suspension."). Limiting suspensions to CoC violations could possibly protect unpopular users and users who have differing viewpoints or practices from those who hold social prominence on a site.

Another way of phrasing the same question is whether "I didn't violate the CoC" is a defense against a suspension. For example, if someone contacted the Community Team and said "A community moderator at Stuff.SE suspended my account because they said I violated their rule against having political speech in my profile, but having political speech in my profile is not a violation of the overall Stack Exchange Code of Conduct as long as it is done in a civil manner. Please reinstate my account and warn the moderator(s) not to do this again.", would they actually do anything?

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    ...yes? If you're consistently breaking a sit-specific policy that's generally grounds for a suspension, regardless of what that policy is...
    – Mithical
    Jan 4, 2020 at 22:28
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    This feels like... um... some rather extreme examples. If this isn’t happening (and it’s not as far as I’m aware), it’s not something we’re going to spend time thinking about and making rules around.
    – Catija StaffMod
    Jan 4, 2020 at 22:36
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    @Catija yes, I did come up with some extreme examples to make my point about what I am asking. In reality, I don't expect such extreme examples. I'm asking whether, in theory, local-only rules of conduct would be permitted. Jan 4, 2020 at 22:37
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    We’ll deal with it when it happens.
    – Catija StaffMod
    Jan 4, 2020 at 22:38
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    Without real examples of such abuse, all we can do is speculate. I think Catija's comment about fealing with it when it happens is the best course of action. Jan 4, 2020 at 23:34
  • Almost: "Needs details or clarity", "Needs more focus", and "Opinion-based"; but enough so, to close for any of those reasons. Catija's comment sums it up: what problem are we trying to solve, and your reply: are unexpected / unusual site-specific rules enforceable is great - but I agree that we need specific examples. Despite the current answer it begs the question: What's the outcome of an appeal
    – Rob
    Jan 5, 2020 at 1:33
  • @Catija - I've seen it happen. Example: At a particular site,a few years ago, at least -- I don't know what the current policy and practice are there now -- moderators had a policy of completely rewriting some users' questions, until they were almost unrecognizable, when they felt there was a need to do so. The author was expected to accept the rewrite without question (my subjective understanding). So, can you help us understand whether anything can be done in such a situation, and how to go about it, if we see that the moderators have become unreasonable with their additional "rules"? Jan 12, 2020 at 6:50

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Yes, communities can implement site-specific policies and uphold them, including requiring being extra-nice.

It's been a long-standing policy on SE that sites have a lot of leeway in setting their own rules and upholding them. For instance, Interpersonal Skills has strict policies on comment usage, and if you consistently violate them and ignore warnings, you will wind up with a suspension. Science Fiction & Fantasy has policies about flooding the front page, that will get you warnings and eventually a suspension if you keep breaking it severely enough.

Each site can, to a certain extent, create their own rules. Certain things, like the Code of Conduct, can't be removed by a site-specific convention, but there's nothing stopping a site from implementing slightly more strict "be nice" rules.

Now, of course, there does have to be a limit at some point - we can't ordain that everyone must use honorifics in comments all the time, for instance. That's where SE comes in. If a site has implemented something that SE decides is detrimental, they reserve the right to step in and say "no". If this is being abused, escalating it to staff is probably your best bet. But... it is rather unlikely that a community or its moderators would decide to implement such ridiculous policies as you give as examples in the question, and SE would be very quick to step in if moderators were abusing their powers for such a purpose.

TL;DR: Communities can make their own rules, and in the extremely unlikely event that this is abused, escalate it to staff and they'll put an end to it.

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