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All good things must come to an end and so must the review queues project. This project would not have been successful without the community. Thank you all for the hours of reviewing, testing, and sharing your feedback along the way. With that said, this will be our final major release. In this post, I’ll summarize the changes we’ve made to the overall queue workflows and the specific adjustments to the Reopen votes queue.

Changes to the First posts queue

First posts → First questions AND First answers queue

  • To avoid context switching, and recognizing that asking and answering require slightly different skill sets, we are creating two separate queues to handle the individual post types.
  • The purpose of these queues remains the same – helping new users learn how to use the site. With that in mind, reviewers will be able to choose from three actions: Looks OK, Edit, and Share feedback.
  • It can take time to develop the skills to write a good question or answer. A user’s first few posts may require extra attention and to help new users get the hang of things, First questions and First answers will accept up to three posts per user if their first couple aren’t successful.
  • Reviewers are encouraged to leave comments for the post-author, but now they can also choose from a few options of canned feedback which will appear as a comment from the Community account.

Canned feedback options appears in modal Canned feedback appears as a comment from Community

Changes to the Reopen votes queues

  1. “Significant edit” option

    Post edit screen with significant edit option

    • This feature appears when editing a closed question and allows editors to indicate if they’re making a minor edit (i.e. grammar, spelling) or a significant edit. By submitting an edit for review, the editor agrees that their edit attempts to resolve the question’s close reason(s) and should be considered for reopening in the Reopen votes queue.

    • Once a significant edit has been submitted, editors are still able to return to the edit screen and make further adjustments. Significant edit status will also be indicated in both revision history and post timeline pages.

    Post edit screen with significant edit submitted

  2. Significant edits in the Suggested edits queue

    • Users who do not have enough reputation to submit an edit outright will have their significant edits go into the Suggested edits queue accompanied by a post notice.

    Significant edit in Suggested edits queue post notice

    • Actions in the Suggested edits queue will change based on whether the edit has been flagged as a Significant edit. In the case of a Significant edit, reviewers will be able to Approve and reopen or Approve and leave closed.
    • It takes two approve votes (any combination of Approve and reopen or Approve and leave closed) to remove the task out of the Suggested Edits queue. If at least one of the votes is Approve and reopen, a new task will be created in the Reopen votes queue.
  3. Leave closed reasons

    • If a Reopen votes reviewer elects to leave a question closed, the reviewer will be presented with a “Leave closed reason” modal (similar to the close reason modal) that will return feedback to the editors. For example, if a question was originally closed because it lacked details, it may still require further details even after an edit, or new issues with the question might present themselves like asking too many questions at once.

    Reasons to leave a question closed appear in modal

    • In addition to inbox notifications, the closed question’s post notice will also be updated with more information.

    Post notice updated with new close reason

  4. Multiple opportunities to send question for review

    • We’ll be launching this feature without any limits – users will be able to submit multiple edits on individual posts. We’ll take a look at the data in a few weeks to see if any abuse of the feature has occurred and take mitigation steps as needed.

    • [Stack Overflow only] Reviewers will not see posts that

      1. they’ve voted to reopen since last closed, and
      2. voted to close since the post was last edited.

      Moderators are exempt from this restriction.

  5. Bug fix: “Don't cause the reopen vote of the user, whose edit pushed the closed question into the reopen queue, to invalidate the review”

    This bug fix is also included as part of this release. You can read Kyle’s detailed response here.

Other changes to the Review queues

  1. Turn off the Help & improvement queue

    • H&I has been our least productive queue. Over the last 90 days, only 9 tasks went into the queue each day on average, compared with 2,215 for First Posts (our busiest queue) and 188 for Reopen Votes (our second-to-last busiest). Consequently, this queue will be turned off. It will remain in the listing until its current items are exhausted, and will then be removed. History for and badges awarded from this queue will remain as they are.
    • With the addition of the First questions queue, we expect that questions with potential can get the same assistance they need more quickly.
    • Questions that would have ended up in this queue from Triage (with a Needs community edit action) will now enter the First questions queue.
  2. New actions for Late answers queue

    The Late answers queue has been successful in identifying and removing low quality posts, repeat answers, and spam. Reviewers were able to take any number of actions on a task, so the objective of this queue wasn’t all that obvious. To clear up any ambiguity and focus on identifying problematic answers, we’ve defined three actions: Looks OK, Edit, and Delete.

  3. Keep Triage queue (Stack Overflow only)

    • Triage will continue to handle questions only.
    • Triage will be available on all sites, but only turned on by default on Stack Overflow. Have a meta discussion and ask a moderator to if your site wishes to add the Triage queue.
  4. Name change: Low quality posts → Low quality answers (Stack Overflow only)

    This queue will continue to handle answers only.

  5. Misc. We won't issue new Reviewer or Steward badges for the queues that were turned off, but this won’t have any effect on badges already earned in these respective queues.

    Along with all these changes, here is an updated visual of the Review queues map –

    Flowchart of review queues

What about issue X, Y, Z?

As mentioned earlier, this is our final major release. We will not be pursuing the proposed suggested tasks feature at this time. We didn't feel that it was going to significantly increase curation activities on the site and therefore didn't warrant the high development cost.

There are still a few outstanding issues related to suggested edits that have proved to be technically challenging. We’ll respond in those original Meta request posts as soon as we decide on a course of action.

Feedback

Please leave your feedback and any bugs you may discover related to this release below this post. We will be monitoring this post until Friday, September 10th. Report any further issues after September 10th as new questions on Meta.

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    "appear as a comment from the Community account." - Neat!
    – Nick
    Aug 26 at 13:50
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    "Looks OK, Edit, and Delete" for Late Answers. Does that mean 500 reputation point users now effectively have Delete privileges? Or does that send the post to another queue? Aug 26 at 14:34
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    @Xnero You're posting a lot of comments that are already mentioned in answers or that should be answers - please don't use comments for this purpose.
    – Catija StaffMod
    Aug 26 at 15:01
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    As a side note, in SOpt lots of new messages are in English. I know there's a "solution" to this (go here and translate), but honestly, I'm getting tired of this "SE changes site -> messages are in English -> community translates" cycle. I'd love to see a better solution, that doesn't require the community acting after the change is made.
    – hkotsubo
    Aug 26 at 16:19
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    Too bad this is featured roght now. I'd rather see Aaron's post about removing the top bar preferences featured :(
    – Luuklag
    Aug 26 at 17:37
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    Late Answers requires a downvote before being about to select delete. I love wasting my rep on DVs. I'm sure everyone wants to waste 20/40 rep going through the queue each day. Absurd. Aug 26 at 18:31
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    @JourneymanGeek posts with 0 score can receive delete and recommend deletion votes (at least in the old queue... I'm not clear yet on exactly how the new one works, but I am 100% on board with encouraging people to downvote when voting to delete. One should always be readier to downvote than to delete!)
    – Zanna
    Aug 27 at 8:06
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    @Zanna I have reservations about these kind of statements. I've seen more irresponsible drive-by voting than perhaps you'd imagine. Not just that, but also taunting users in the comments who haven't earned enough rep to downvote back. It only takes 1 high-rep user to throw a low rep into the question ban.
    – bad_coder
    Aug 27 at 23:24
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    @TylerH - Thanks for the info. I respect the fact that the new design can be useful on other sites where I'm not active. I was trying to say that it'd have been better if the old response options weren't completely removed - they could have been kept along with the new design.
    – TRC
    Aug 28 at 4:07
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    @bad_coder What do you mean? I said one should be more willing to downvote than to delete. If one thinks a post should be removed from the site altogether, one should surely be willing to downvote it. Would it be less bad if instead of casually downvoting, people casually delete-voted?
    – Zanna
    Aug 28 at 4:37
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    Did you even test this on non-tech sites? Why does it post comments about code on humanities sites??? Aug 29 at 5:55
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    @curiousdannii That's hardly the only such wording blunder. Here's another: apparently now all answers must be "solutions".
    – tchrist
    Aug 29 at 15:23
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    I initially upvoted this because there are some good things here, but I've changed it to a downvote after working in the new First Q&A queues. The number of options in these queues is severely limited -- I keep having to perform actual moderation (like vote to close) and then click "Looks OK" to finish the review for a post that is clearly not OK. I understand that there will be some bugs at first, but the workflow seems like it was designed by people who don't have much (if any) experience actually reviewing first posts -- many of which are not OK and/or need more than an edit or "feedback".
    – Null
    Aug 30 at 15:40
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    You know, if you guys want, there's a significant number of us here who would be happy to beta test this stuff out and give you some real user/curator feedback before you 'Final release' it out onto the entire broad spectrum of sites like this.
    – ouflak
    Aug 31 at 15:51
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    @TobyHarnish, Meta sites aren't just for questions. They are also for announcements, regular updates, and site discussions.
    – ouflak
    Aug 31 at 20:42

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There should be a custom comment option in the New answers and New questions queues because most of the time the default (i.e. the new "community bot" comments) comments do not pertain to the new answers or questions. For example, we also get new questions that should be on the Meta of the site but there is no option to let the OP know.

In answers, we also get answers that should be comments but there isn't any option.

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  • P.S. I haven't read all the answers so if my answer is a duplicate, please do let me know.
    – user841781
    Aug 29 at 12:57
  • Most of the time new questions are also posted as answers. Aug 29 at 14:28
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    The custom comment is there on "Add a comment" on the post, no? Why would we give users the power to post anything they want in a comment under the Community user? Aug 29 at 21:29
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    @Unconsidered The main problem right now is that if you simply "Add a comment" you can't actually finish the review...
    – Tomerikoo
    Aug 30 at 8:36
  • @Tomerikoo I'm hopeful that this will be changed to include an "I''m done" button. Lots of other Answers in this post has requested one. On an off-note to this: If an Answer should be removed, posting a comment isn't a sufficient action. Aug 30 at 9:23
  • There's now an "Other action" option to allow ending the review after commenting, but it does still feel odd that you have to use that option instead of the "Share Feedback" one when you're still... sharing feedback.
    – zcoop98
    Sep 15 at 20:40
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I was reviewing the Triage queue.

When select Spam flag using the button below audit questions, the action is treated as if clicked Looks OK instead of Flag.

What happened:

enter image description here

It would be great if you can rectify the result in these audits,

https://stackoverflow.com/review/triage/29702035

https://stackoverflow.com/review/triage/29693259

Original Post for reference.

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    The flag "link" isn't suppose to be there for Triage. I believe it was added by mistake, when it was added to another review queue. See my comment here. Use the "Flag" option in "The Box" instead. Aug 31 at 8:59
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After editing, an answer went through the first answers queue multiple times.

post history with a first answers review, an edit, then another review

This doesn't make sense. There is only one first answer here, and it could lead to multiple comments from Community, which would be confusing for anyone who doesn't have knowledge of the review process.

Is this intended behavior?

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User not returned to review queue after edit


Summary

A change in behaviour (of the Edit link beneath the post).

Note: This report is not the same bug/feature request as Tomerikoo's which requests the removal of the edit link.


Details

Previously, in a review queue (any review queue, IIRC, but I am currently seeing this in Late Answers), if you edited a post (by clicking on the edit link beneath the post), then once the edit was submitted, you would be automatically returned to the review queue to continue/complete the review of that particular item.

However, now, once the edit has been submitted, you are put on to the question's page instead. You have to hit the browser's back button twice, in order to get back to the post that you were reviewing - in order to complete the review (No action needed, I'm done, recommend deletion, etc.).

Also, if you cancel the edit, then you are not returned to the review page either, but again you are placed on to the question page.

Why has this changed? Please can we be returned automatically to the review queue, rather than having to click an extra few times on the browser's back button to get back to the review.

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    I have already reported this in this very post... Instead of posting new duplicate answers it is better to upvote existing ones so they get better traction
    – Tomerikoo
    Sep 1 at 8:04
  • I hadn't seen your post, I had checked the spreadsheet first. This isn't the most efficient bug tracking tool, you must admit - there is no search mechanism. However, your post deals with two issues, whereas they would have been better separated as two distinct issues. The issue that I report above is somewhat buried in your issue of the two UI edit elements. Also, you request to remove the link beneath the question, but this link has been there for many years, prior to the recent change, so I don't think that it should be removed. Sep 1 at 8:41
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    However, I would agree that both UI elements should perform the same action, and not be different. I have never used the radio button Edit option, so I was unaware of any difference in behaviour. I also think that it is daft to have a duplication of UI elements, although others may disagree - it is similar to the duplication of the link-only post flagging Sep 1 at 8:41
  • The way I see it: As long as there is a dedicated action to finish the review with an edit - this one should be used to edit and therefore the link for edit shouldn't be there at all (similar to First questions and answers). If we should be able to make several actions (as before), then yes - the edit should be done through the link and the behavior should remain as before. It all depends on what direction the dev team is taking with the next changes
    – Tomerikoo
    Sep 1 at 9:10
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There's a need for the canned responses to deal with one of the most common problems: link-only answers. I noticed on this deleted SO NAA that the canned comment was

Please provide additional details in your answer. As it's currently written, it's hard to understand your solution.

That's fine and good, but it's too vague for the situation (and I could easily see users responding with "Well, all the details are in the link!"). I personally use this canned comment (offered for an example of what I'd like to see)

A link to a solution is welcome, but please ensure your answer is useful without it: add context around the link so your fellow users will have some idea what it is and why it’s there, then quote the most relevant part of the page you're linking to in case the target page is unavailable. Answers that are little more than a link may be deleted.

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The "Learn more" button from the Stats and History tabs of any review queue does not work

Oddly enough, it does seem to work when under any "Review tasks" tab, but under the other two, it does not.

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    Already reported: meta.stackexchange.com/a/369038/348196
    – 41686d6564
    Aug 26 at 17:14
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    @41686d6564 No, that says "Clicking the "Learn more" button in a review queue that I do not have access to", what I am experiencing is happening in queues that I do have access to Aug 26 at 17:18
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    It could be something else but it's likely the same bug. That wasn't my downvote BTW. I'm just connecting the two answers so that duplicate/related/similar issues are easy to track.
    – 41686d6564
    Aug 26 at 17:22
  • I fixed this today - it'll be live today or tomorrow. Thanks for the report!
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 9 at 18:58
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The How do I use the First questions queue? page says "answer"

Share feedback if the post has the potential of being a good answer, but cannot be improved by anyone but the post-author. ...

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First Answers Canned Responses Give Help Link to "How to Ask"

The help links in the First Answers queues incorrectly lead to the how to ask help page.

The links should lead to how to answer: https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-answer

Picture of Share feedback popup problems outlined

Below is an example of a posted canned response with the incorrect link after selecting Answer needs supporting information.

Picture of Canned response problem outlined

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Add OP shading to the revisions summary in the Reopen queue

In the Reopen queue, when summarizing the changes to the question, please highlight the owner of the question, using the standard highlighting already used for OP throughout each thread.

This is good for consistency in terms of how information is presented elsewhere on the site, but here it is also a useful handle to be able to parse quickly what the edit history looks like. Was the question extensively edited by OP or by somebody else? This is an important piece of information and the design language already has the tools to communicate the answer effortlessly.

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    I implemented this today! It likely won't be pushed to production until early next week, as it's Friday afternoon where I am, but I'll mark this as status-completed now since it's in-flight. Thanks for reporting.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 17 at 20:13
  • @kristina Great to know!
    – E.P.
    Sep 18 at 1:02
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Thank you for all the improvements.

Can you please remove the option to "leave feedback" by community user from "First questions review"? While this option makes sense in "Low quality answers" and in "New Answers review", having this option in "First questions review" is unnecessary. If I say that the question is unclear I expect that I cast a close vote on it and push it into the close review. I don't want a noisy comment from community user that states the same thing as the blue banner does. I can't even self-delete this comment. I would have to flag it and ask moderators to delete it.

Please replace that option with "close" option instead.

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  • I disagree with this. I think the point is to get feedback to users before the question is closed, with the hope of the question getting fixed. While it probably should cast a close vote and push into close review, the comment would also be helpful.
    – Ryan M
    Aug 26 at 14:42
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    Ideally there'd be an easy way to remove the comment if/when it's addressed, though.
    – Ryan M
    Aug 26 at 14:42
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    Getting them feedback before it's closed is good, absolutely - that said, we shouldn't prevent you from voting to close the question without visiting it outside of review and closing it there.
    – Catija StaffMod
    Aug 26 at 14:51
  • @Catija How does the comment get deleted? Aug 26 at 15:05
  • What comment are you talking about, @Unconsidered ?
    – Catija StaffMod
    Aug 26 at 15:06
  • @Catija One of the ones left by the Community user when choosing "Share feedback" Aug 26 at 15:11
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    The blue banner disappears when the issue is addressed and the question is reopened. The new comment posted by community stays there forever to haunt you and remind you of your past mistakes.
    – Dharman
    Aug 26 at 15:12
  • We specifically are trying to send more proactive feedback to folks who are posting their first questions/answers. You can still cast a close vote on it.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Aug 26 at 15:44
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    @kristinalustig How can I cast a close vote from the review? Even if I cast the close vote in a new tab, I still have to take an action on this post to finish the review. If I chose to leave a comment, and OP edits the question, the comment will not go away.
    – Dharman
    Aug 26 at 15:47
  • Maybe the "community" comment could go away after some time or if the post is significantly edited or reopened.
    – Trilarion
    Aug 27 at 8:06
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As I said in the product discovery, the wording for this button is problematic. Remember that this appears as part of an edit, so most users will simply think they are submitting their edit for review, as they are used to.

It should indicate a lot clearer that you are editing the question, and expecting it to be reviewed for reopening. As I previously suggested some reasonable alternatives are:

  • Submit edit for question's reopen review
  • Substantial Edit
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  • Another suggestion: "Submit question for review"
    – Ryan M
    Aug 29 at 11:30
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The text in the help center article for the low-quality posts queue doesn't match the capitalization according to the style guide.

Headings

Don’t Do
Performance Overview Performance overview
Edit Your Profile Edit your profile

Feature or product names

Don’t Do
Job Alerts job alerts
Blog blog
Profile profile
Stack Overflow talent Stack Overflow Talent
stack exchange Stack Exchange

The heading of the article is mixed case, not sentence cased:

How do I use the Low-quality posts queue?

This is also inconsistent with the header for the access review queues page, which is all lower case even though it appears to me to be a header.

References to the feature (low-quality posts queue) are sentence cased, not lower case:

Posts entering the Low-quality posts queue have been flagged as problematic by users or recognized by the system’s quality checks to be potentially low quality. (Apparently there must be a blank line separating text from tables even if you put a double blank at the end.)

Frankly, it doesn’t appear as if there is a consistent understanding of what is a header and what is a feature name. If you’re going to capitalize something in the middle of a sentence, it shouldn’t be sentence cased unless it is quoted or otherwise distinguished from the rest of the sentence. To do otherwise just makes it unnecessarily difficult to parse the sentence. There are plenty of questions on ELL where a non-native speaker had trouble understanding a sentence because it wasn’t clear which words were modifying other words.

If this wacky "let's treat something like a proper noun, but sentence case it instead of properly capitalize it" is intentional, which it seems to be based on the review queue help center articles, here's a list of a few pages that don't follow that convention either by (correctly IMO) leaving the feature names as all lower case or capitalizing feature names as if they were proper nouns:

  1. What are review queues?
  2. Why was I suspended from the Review Queues?
  3. approve tag wiki edits "other posts in the Suggested Edits review task" (links referring to the new queues are sentenced cased as if they are considered headers, so this is inconsistent.)
  4. What does it mean if a question is "closed"? "...is automatically added to a reopen queue for community review." (An aside... is it "the Reopen votes queue" or "a reopen queue"?)
  5. Privileges
2,000 access review queues Access first posts and late answers review queues

There are more, but I think that's enough to make my point that the way the style guide is being applied in the updated review queue articles is not intuitive or consistent with other pages. On top of that, it serves no purpose in terms of communicating information. Randomly capitalizing Words in the middle of a Sentence when they aren't proper nouns is annoying.

And I do understand that it's annoying to have your orthography nitpicked. When you look at that sentence and think "What does it matter? I know exactly what that text means." consider that the reader probably doesn't know what your style guide says; they just know what they typically see. Using unconventional styling for documentation makes it harder to understand.

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  • There's a parse ambiguity with those nouns strung together anyway: "(low-quality posts) queue" vs "low-quality (posts queue)". I guess we all know what it means, but I think "low-quality-posts queue" would be better. I suppose this is all part of the gradual dropping of hyphens that's happening at present? Aug 28 at 10:20
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    @TobySpeight Interpreting most English text requires context to resolve ambiguity; that’s what makes English so expressive and is part of its charm ;) Excessive punctuation can be just as troublesome as a lack of punctuation. What is far more important is consistency. Having a style guide is a great first step, but it needs to be explicit enough that writers can understand how to apply it to specific content.
    – ColleenV
    Aug 30 at 15:26
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The "First Posts" review queue is now retired, but what are the plans to make it disappear from:

On most sites, it has been cleared and will not get any new entries.

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    First posts will now disappear from any site where it has no outstanding items.
    – Yaakov Ellis StaffMod
    Aug 31 at 20:47
  • @YaakovEllis Can it not be moved to a "retired" section like is done on the badges page? There's a lot of history there, and at least for the next little while keeping it accessible would benefit us I think. I don't see the need to hide it away completely. Sep 1 at 9:14
  • @TheLethalCarrot please post that request as a separate item
    – Yaakov Ellis StaffMod
    Sep 1 at 9:38
  • @YaakovEllis Pretty much already covered here, I think. Sep 1 at 9:43
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Please add a close link to the question in the first answer queue.

Every now and then you come across a low quality answer in the First Answer queue, well just because the question was low quality to begin with. It would be great to have a direct option to cast a close vote on the question then and there, instead of having to navigate away to the question itself to be able to do that.

I already looked at the question to see if the answer is doing a job at answering the question at hand. If I then identify the question to be problematic it should be easy to handle that as well.

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When voting to close a question in the First Questions queue, actually having to flag because the close option isn't available(!), the review item hard refreshes. My vote to close, via flagging, was a binding vote as a mod so not sure if this happens when the close vote doesn't cause the question to be closed. This seems to be happening because of the review item hard refreshing not soft.

The resulting effect here is that the reviewer actually loses the review that they've just performed and can't complete it as the item that comes back is the invalidated review, due to the closure.


And side not, perhaps more importantly. Voting to close should really be an available option in First Questions. To be honest the idea behind these queues is good and this is a good start but we've lost way too much functionality from just plain old First Posts that things have gone back too many steps.

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The text in the closure banner explaining that there's a reopen review available for a question is unclear:

An edit was submitted for review 59 mins ago.

An edit wasn't submitted for review, an edit was made and the post was submitted for review. Can this be change to reflect the correct meaning?

Close banner with message "An edit was submitted for review 59 mins ago."

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    Can you please link me to an example? In some instances there is an actual edit submitted for review (when it's a suggested edit), but in others you're right that the edited post was submitted for review. I want to make sure we're differentiating appropriately.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Aug 31 at 11:54
  • @kristinalustig stackoverflow.com/questions/68982767/… - As of comment time the post has had no suggested edits
    – Nick
    Aug 31 at 12:01
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    Thank you! Looking into this.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Aug 31 at 12:09
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    I've updated the wording to reflect the fact that the post is what's being submitted. It likely won't be in until early next week, as it's Friday afternoon where I am, but I'll mark this as status-completed now since it's in-flight. Thanks for reporting.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 17 at 20:12
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Similar to this and this (both already marked completed), another blank/missing state: when there are no more posts in the queue (appears to affect all queues).

This also occurs when you have completed your reviews for the day, suggesting that the fix for this has since broken.

Screenshot of the close votes queue with nothing below the filter button and daily reviews count

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  • Yep, just recreated in the Low Quality Answers queue as well...
    – Tomerikoo
    Sep 9 at 12:24
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    Already reported.
    – bad_coder
    Sep 9 at 13:18
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    @bad_coder Ah, good catch, I missed that. I'll leave this up as a signpost for anyone who does the same as me and tries to report it here...
    – Ryan M
    Sep 9 at 18:23
  • Also reported here.
    – Ryan M
    Sep 9 at 18:26
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    @RyanM the catch with these bug reports is they were posted separately for each queue because the lack of the message didn't happen in every queue, it was also fixed and regressed for some but not all queues.
    – bad_coder
    Sep 9 at 18:46
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    I fixed this today! The fix likely won't go live until early next week, but I'm going to mark it as status-completed as it's in-flight already. Thanks for reporting.
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 17 at 20:14
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The How do I use the First answers queue? help page refers to "this question":

One review from a user is enough to dismiss the task so review carefully to ensure that this question meets site expectations.

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The first questions and first answers review queues don't show up in red, even when there are tasks to review:

review queue sidebar with a gray dot by first questions and first answers

When I looked at it from the inspector, I noticed that the first questions queue has the HTML:

<li class="-item danger-active">
    <a href="/review/first-questions" class="js-gps-track" data-gps-track="review_popup_item.click({ item_type: 12, in_danger: false })">
        <span class="-title">First questions</span>
            <span class="v-visible-sr">(Active)</span>
    </a>
</li>

As opposed to late answers:

<li class="-item danger-urgent">
    <a href="/review/late-answers" class="js-gps-track" data-gps-track="review_popup_item.click({ item_type: 5, in_danger: true })">
            <span class="-title">Late answers</span>
            <span class="v-visible-sr">(Urgent)</span>
    </a>
</li>

The

<li class="-item danger-active">

and

<li class="-item danger-urgent">

seems to be the culprit here. danger-active doesn't have the proper styling, whereas danger-urgent does. When I run:

$(".danger-active").removeClass("danger-active").addClass("danger-urgent");

The issue is fixed.

review queue sidebar with a red dot by first questions and first answers

So it seems Stack Exchange is implementing a new class name, but forgot to add it to the others and add proper CSS styling.

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    I knew something didn't look right. It's likely that the threshold wasn't set properly (or at all). Currently, the First questions queue has 1.4 posts. The only other explanation is that the threshold is (intentionally) too high.
    – 41686d6564
    Aug 27 at 22:05
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    Actually, after re-reading the "How we adjust the thresholds" section of that post, this doesn't really seem like a bug. It looks like the new queues just aren't yet used for enough time to gather data. Edit: But shouldn't the default threshold be the fallback? I don't know. You might want to wait for confirmation from the staff.
    – 41686d6564
    Aug 27 at 22:13
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    It's red on Anime.SE. Aug 28 at 5:20
  • @MetaAndrewT. Definitely a bug, then.
    – Anonymous
    Aug 28 at 13:57
  • @41686d6564 It appears the issue totally different: the threshold was set, but isn't being correctly rendered client-side.
    – Anonymous
    Aug 29 at 20:09
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    We forgot to set the threshold settings for these queues. Will be done shortly.
    – Yaakov Ellis StaffMod
    Aug 30 at 9:08
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/

The canned comments do not include the "From Review" link, similar to the ones from the Low Quality Posts queue.

Example from Late Answers: https://stackoverflow.com/review/late-answers/29721791 I chose the option for "I'm having this problem, too" and this is the comment that was automatically posted, without the "From Review" link.

A matching review from the Low Quality Posts - https://stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/29725913 which includes the "From Review" link.

I'm not sure about the new First Q/A queues with the community feedback. Providing such link might be an anti-pattern for the anonymity purpose, but it should be there for the planned regular feedback.

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Pointless request for more details (from Community) on "Me Too" NAA

FWIW, I came across this comment when it was in the Late Answers review queue on Ask Ubuntu.

As the screen shot shows, a totally inappropriate comment is left by community on a "Me Too" answer. There clearly aren't any more details available for a solution as the poster has the same issue as the OP and doesn't know how to solve it.

More details requested on a Me Too answer

In addition, when I try to flag it as no longer required, in an effort to remove it, you get a message saying that it can not be removed and will be removed only when the issues have been addressed:

Can not flag erroneous message for removal

Note: I wanted to flag it for removal because the intention of this "Need more info" comment is to prompt the new user to expand upon their pointless answer, thereby wasting their time working on an answer that will clearly be deleted in the near future.


This comment is obviously auto-generated somehow, but not by the Recommended deletion option in the Late Answers review - possibly/probably by some mechanism from another review queue (I don't know if it was generated in one of those two new First Questions/Answers review queues).

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    This is a First answers review comment. A fix for my requests here and here would address this problem.
    – Ryan M
    Sep 4 at 3:54
  • Yes, quite possibly. Maybe expand rather than asking related questions, thanking other posters, or other commentary that does not answer the question. to rather than asking related questions, thanking other posters, "Me too" answers, or other commentary that does not answer the question. to make it explicit. "Me too" is one of the most common NAA (along with thanks and questions as answers). I admit that there are two issues mixed into my post here: (1) The inappropriate comment, and (2) the indelibility of said inappropriate comment. They may be better separated into two different issues. Sep 4 at 4:01
  • Good idea. I updated the language in my post (not with your exact phrasing, but the same general idea of explicitly including "me too" answers).
    – Ryan M
    Sep 4 at 4:04
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With the recent update, the other actions item will stay selected if you post a comment on a post, and then delete it, allowing you to complete the item without technically doing anything:

enter image description here

Probably very unlikely most people would do this, but it could be abused.

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  • Technically, it posts a deleted comment which is visible to the moderators...
    – Anonymous
    Sep 10 at 23:10
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    I came here to also report this.
    – helvete
    Sep 16 at 13:50
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The "Asked {x}" text in a review displays the question's age in a way that's different to how it's displayed when the question is viewed.


For instance:

Review Reported in review Reported in post
Link "Asked today" "asked 48 mins ago"
Link "Asked today" "asked 19 hours ago"
Link "Asked 12 days ago" "asked Aug 26, 7:27"
Link "Asked 3 months ago" "asked May 28 8:30"
Link "Asked 11 years, 5 months ago" "asked Apr 13 '10 at 8:03"

The precision for questions posted in the last 24 hours (just reported as "today" in review) is especially annoying because when doing some review tasks, the relative timing of a question and its answers can be important.

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Thanks for this modification.

Can you add multiple new options in "Share feedback" options such as "This is not an answer" (for people who are asking for help in an answer).

Also, when we add specific comment (and not premade one), we can't validate the review such as before.

Edit: Include in this post and will be fixed (planned)

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    Wouldn't this be handled by flagging as NAA instead?
    – TylerH
    Aug 26 at 14:50
  • NNA ? There isn't option like that in first answer queue
    – Elikill58
    Aug 26 at 14:51
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    And that is a bug that's already planned to be fixed: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/369013/…
    – TylerH
    Aug 26 at 14:54
  • Oh ok, such as it doesn't mention exact issue, I think that was different.
    – Elikill58
    Aug 26 at 14:59
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    NAA feedback is a duplicate of this
    – Ryan M
    Aug 26 at 15:03
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    This is fixed - you can flag answers as "Not an answer" now and then submit your review as "Other action."
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 8 at 14:41
  • Thanks you! That's perfect
    – Elikill58
    Sep 8 at 15:32
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(Possible)

The "Late answers" and new "Low quality answers" queues have very similar (in fact, almost identical) UIs. In particular, the canned comments available when selecting "Delete" or "Recommend deletion" are the same.

If a second reviewer in one of those queues selects a comment that is already present, then a new comment isn't added; rather, the 'original' comment is automatically upvoted.

However, when the same comment is added from the 'other' queue, it is added a second time, as here (10k on SO required to see it, as it's already deleted). Should this also just upvote the existing comment?


Related: Do "Recommend deletion" votes from those two queues act cumulatively? That is, if (say) four such votes are required to kill the post, will one from "Late answers" and three from LQA finish the job?


Screenshot for those lacking 10k privileges:

enter image description here

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Getting extra review tasks:

I didn't see this mentioned in another answer or the original post, but please ping me if it is there and I'll ditch this. I've poked around the stats and I've noticed I'm not the only one. I figured it might be a mod thing or high-rep thing, but at least a couple of the other reviewers have lower rep than me, and none of them are mods (at least not on SE).

Update: Along the same lines, a banner telling me I have reached my limit, while the progress bar tells me I still have more to do if I wish.

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  • Isn't this always the case when the amount of items in the queue exceeds a certain threshold?
    – Luuklag
    Aug 31 at 12:04
  • @Luuklag, If that's something else that's been modified with this update, then this is the first I've ever seen it in any review queue. And even if that's the case, I think the messaging needs to be consistent. It's at a minimum confusing, at worst it's outright contradictory.
    – ouflak
    Aug 31 at 12:07
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    I've had this happen before. What happens is that when the number of items in the queue exceeds a certain threshold, the daily review count increases from 20 to 40, but if the number drops back down, it goes back to 20. So what happened is you reviewed 22 while there were enough review tasks and afterwords it became 20 again, leading the system to the confusing "22/20".
    – Anonymous
    Sep 1 at 20:17
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    I figured this out, and am getting a fix in. Basically, we keep the dailyMaxReviews count and only update your current review count dynamically (we don't refresh the whole page between tasks). So this bug only happens if the queue size changes while you're reviewing. I updated the javascript to update both numbers for each task. The fix will be shipped in the next couple of days. Thanks for reporting!
    – kristinalustig StaffMod
    Sep 14 at 17:19
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When I start to edit this old question of mine, which until yesterday had only 29 views, I see the new checkbox

This edit resolves the original close reason and the question should be considered for reopening.

It seems that box is always shown (I don't think that question qualifies for the popularity criterion). How does that work with the edit-to-reopen criteria mentioned here? Are those obsolete now, and is the only criteria whether this box was ticked or not?

Bonus question: what happens if I my scripts edit a question via the API? Do those ever count for reopening? If so, my scripts might need to be more careful with editing questions.

Answer to that bonus question: those edits don't seem to count for reopening (which is good IMHO). Here is an example: no Reopen Votes review queue item to be found.

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Turn off the Help & improvement queue

Can the company give badge stats of the H&I queue now that it's closing? (If the review statistics for the queue stop being visible it would also be good to have them posted.)

SEDE doesn't reveal for which queue badges were awarded. I think reviewers who were active on the queue would enjoy knowing the final breakdown.

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    It says "History for and badges awarded from this queue will remain as they are.", so maybe the review page will still be accessible but just removed from the front page? If that's the case, then I think no further action will be needed.
    – 41686d6564
    Aug 27 at 22:58
  • @41686d6564 the main point I asked about was how many steward/reviewer/custiodian badges were awarded for the queue. Then "It will remain in the listing until its current items are exhausted" so if the overall stats are removed I would like to see them published for reference.
    – bad_coder
    Aug 27 at 23:10
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Missing space between OP and OP's reputation

At least in the Close queue, the UI now shows the OP and their reputation just below the title of the question. There is currently no space between the two, which looks pretty crowded.

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    Reported in User card is missing padding between username and reputation in review queues. I'm not sure this is related to the new workflows and/or queues. It seems independent. Aug 30 at 12:54
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    This is completed, though it is not related to the release being discussed in this post at all.
    – Yaakov Ellis StaffMod
    Aug 30 at 19:23
  • 1
    @YaakovEllis I just completed a few reviews now (close vote queue on TeX.SE using Firefox on Ubuntu) but the space was still missing. The post author line is right-aligned but otherwise it looked the same as in the screenshot above.
    – Marijn
    Sep 1 at 17:40
  • 1
    I'm still seeing this. Once though, my page refreshed and it seemed to be correct. Otherwise, the space always not there.
    – ouflak
    Sep 2 at 10:50
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Sorry, but FWIW I hate the new thingy. Too many steps, but mainly too locked-in to a hard-coded sequence of steps, with no turning back. Bad UI design, IMHO.

One simple example (and yes, similar to what some others have said): You must decide up front whether to OK a post or edit it. Once you choose Edit you're done - no going back. An Edit apparently implies OK after editing. No, it doesn't. You might want to skip or close or edit again or...

Why would you need to decide the ultimate fate before being able to try to improve the post? We used to be able to edit, comment, save, wash, rinse, repeat,... whatever -- before deciding on a review fate.

That's just one tiny example. This seems to have been designed by someone who's never used an editor. Reviewing involves editorial actions. The hard-coded flowchart here is horribly misguided, not to mention a time sink and a general bother.

It wasn't broken. Shoudn'ta tried to fix it. Or shoulda gotten a high-school intern to improve it.

But maybe the real aim was to get cut-and-dried metadata about reviews, rather than let humans use their brains. Multiple-choice on steroids, for automatic pigeon-holing? The result will be poorer quality reviews, and likely an abandonment of some reviewing.

Just one opinion.

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