Some of us have taken it upon ourselves to seek out the worst of what finds its way to Stack Exchange so that the majority of users don't have to see any of that. That's how the spam and rude flags work, for example: When a post is deleted with even one such helpful flag, the new answer notification is removed, the post vanishes for the majority of users, and the post itself is hidden behind a mask so that privileged users who don't want to see it won't. On top of this, new posts can be monitored programmatically and cleaned up by people who have minimal reputation on the site (that is, association bonus users).

However, this is not how suggested edits work. In fact, the only part of this that works even remotely similarly is the fact that users who aren't signed in will see a 404 error when trying to see an edit rejected with this reason:

Spam or vandalism
This edit defaces the post in order to promote a product or service, or is deliberately destructive.

However, this isn't enough. I have some suggestions:

  • Remove the notification about the post having a rejected edit for the author (and maybe followers?) to review. (I think this is the most important thing.)
  • Make it possible for suggested edits to be monitored just like active posts, via the API. (Apparently the reason why Smokey doesn't monitor them is because there's no good way to poll new edits, like a websocket.)
    • Unfortunately, this won't be enough to allow suggested edits to be handled as efficiently as regular posts are, since reviewing them will require 1000–2000 reputation. It would be nice for that reason to be able to "flag" reviews so that the moderation burden doesn't have to fall on a small group of people on some obscure SE site who might not be around when the suggested edit happens. Think of how red flagging posts across the network is mostly handled by Charcoal users.
  • Mask edits rejected with this reason like posts when viewing them.
  • Clarify the description of "Spam or vandalism" so that it's more obvious to use it only in extreme cases, and also for offensive edits specifically. (When I hear "vandalism" I think of nonsense, not something that's truly offensive.) This would probably be very easy to do (at least once someone writes up a good suggestion), since it just involves updating text.

Note: The most important use case would be for offensive edits. I've seen such edits more than once (albeit not on my own posts), which is already too much.

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    It would be great to reduce the harassment that is done by some users through suggested edits. I'd add: Once rejected as spam/vandalism/rude and/or flagged as such, then hide the suggested edit review page from users with < 10k, and even from > 10k users, but not moderators/staff, put the post content behind a separate page load, similar to what's done for posts that are deleted with a helpful spam or R/A flag. This will prevent spammers and trolls from being able to have a permanent, publicly-visible page to display their suggested edit and unsuspecting users from seeing the content.
    – Makyen
    Feb 2 at 18:29
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    +1 Yes please. Suggested edits are currently the most reliable avenue for persistent targeted harassment and need additional safety and monitoring measures. Removing the notification follows similar action to Please clear chat message notifications out of my inbox if the message was deleted as rude/abusive which was requested in late 2021 and went live just a few months later. Feb 2 at 18:40
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    Yet another suggested addition: Treat the user, including anonymous users, who suggested the edit similar to how the author of a post which is deleted as a result of spam/R/A flags is treated, at least as far as what happens with SpamRam.
    – Makyen
    Feb 2 at 18:53
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    @Makyen I'm not sure that the rep to see them needs to be as high as 10k, but it is weird that the only requirement to see them is an account (logged out produces a 404), and you can just stumble onto them with no warning other than it being marked rejected. I do think it's more sensible to mask the edit suggestion itself instead of putting that information in all the places it's linked, like the timeline like I originally suggested.
    – Laurel
    Feb 2 at 22:47
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    @Makyen There is a separate system which operates similarly to SpamRam for suggested edits. I remember when I used to edit anonymously and I suggested an edit that'd trip the instant-ban filter: previous edits I made using the same IP address were labeled as "Our system has identified this edit as possible spam". Feb 3 at 18:42


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