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This question brought to my attention something that was always there, but few knew: flagging a post as SPAM produces a 2 point rep penalty.

The problem is I just got a 2 point decrease in rep without it showing up in my activity summary (and it's not the first time).

Could this be as a result of a flag as spam on one of my posts?

If so, this behavior could potentially be exploited, as I don't think this will show up in the anti-vote-fraud script, and furthermore, there's no way of knowing which posts are being flagged.

Could we at least add the rep lost as a flag to the envelope summary as a way of alerting us?
If I hadn't been on the site at that moment, I probably wouldn't had known.

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    I would still like to know (via the question you linked to) whether or not this is intended behavior....
    – squillman
    Feb 26, 2010 at 21:36
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    Plus, putting any kind of flag should also appear in the activity.
    – cregox
    Mar 11, 2010 at 21:00
  • According to Jeff's answer, it's intended @squil
    – juan
    Mar 25, 2010 at 19:41

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If it affects rep, it should show up in the activity log. If my posts are getting flagged as spam, I want to know so I can act and fix them.

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    I flagged your post as spam to test. It does indeed produce a -2 penalty. I'm voting you up to counter-act that. Mar 23, 2010 at 19:46
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    @george - mmmmmmm, spam.....
    – Pollyanna
    Mar 23, 2010 at 19:49
  • I think it downvotes you, rather than give you the -2 penalty directly @george. But it's the same result
    – juan
    Mar 23, 2010 at 20:07
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    ...except that it's not visible in the activity list.
    – Ether
    Mar 24, 2010 at 2:08
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Confirmed; I just flagged a post that was in the flag list in the 10k mod tools and it got another downvote and the poster took a -2 rep (actually, it was -102 since I was the sixth vote).

FWIW, I don't see any posts from you in the flag list on SO.

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    Mine was on meta (I don't actually care about mine, but the issue is the same on all sites)
    – juan
    Feb 26, 2010 at 21:30
  • @Downvoter: I don't see any flags for you on MSO either
    – Kip
    Feb 27, 2010 at 6:41
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These downvotes come from the Community user.

Also, these downvotes age away if they do not reach the threshold, and are deleted.

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    Still no reason to not put them in the activity summary...
    – fretje
    Mar 24, 2010 at 0:31
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    so? you don't know who the other downvotes come from anyway, I don't understand this answer
    – juan
    Mar 24, 2010 at 0:37
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    I agree with @Downvoter it's irrelevant if they come from Community, Jeff or ponies.. The end effect is the same Mar 24, 2010 at 1:17
  • @downvoter see my update. Apr 13, 2010 at 23:36
  • I still don't see why that is a reason not to show them, could you please elaborate? also, is the rep lost from those flags restored when they are deleted or only after a recalculation?
    – juan
    Apr 13, 2010 at 23:47
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    @Jeff: I think the point is not that they affect rep so much as the fact that if I am offending people I would like to know that. Perhaps certain users, who shall remain unnamed, might alter their behavior if faced with a constant stream of flags on their posts. Apr 14, 2010 at 1:32
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    It does matter that the downvote comes from the community user, because the flagger is effectively able to downvote without the -1 rep penalty.
    – Perpetual Motion Goat
    Apr 25, 2010 at 9:41
  • @perpetual yes, but the community downvotes are temporary unless the post reaches the threshold. The community downvotes are auto-deleted after a certain period of time. Apr 25, 2010 at 9:52
  • @Koper I'm getting reports that evil ponies have invaded meta. They are randomly down voting people. And since it's ponies, they don't show in the activity summary, making it hard to track them down. Mods have responded in force, attempt to remove any traces of pony, but so far the attempts have been unsuccessful. Aug 28, 2012 at 14:29

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