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I was just looking at this question on Area51. It has eleven great on topic votes, and no other votes. The site still says they need ten questions of all sorts? What's the new goal?

I'm worried about how much consensus you expect in a site before it can go to commit. Even at just ten votes, you would still need twenty people who agreed exactly about the set of on and off topic questions to get a site into the commit phase.

Math (Original 10 votes):

  • 10 Questions
  • 10 votes for question (assumed)
  • 5 votes per follower
  • 100 votes / 5 votes
  • 20 users

Current Math (With above actual 30 vote limit):

  • 10 Questions
  • 30 votes for question (current actual)
  • 5 votes per follower
  • 300 votes / 5 votes
  • 60 users

This inclines me to wonder if the limit is actually 30 (which would require 60 users to be in agreement).

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  • 10 + 10 is not 20 people, they can (and will) overlap. And they don't have to agree exactly. At least 60 followers are required anyway, and it's likely there will be more. I hate to say it... but maybe we should restrict example questions even further: 3 per person and force the old questions to be winnowed down to the limit.
    – Gnome
    Commented Jun 5, 2010 at 20:43
  • @The Cat: Persian IT has already met its quota for followers. It also appears to have unambiguously on-topic answers, but the "good example" and "bad example" counts have not moved. Perhaps The Team has moved those counts out of the "definition" phase.
    – user102937
    Commented Jun 5, 2010 at 20:57
  • @Robert: I think it more likely the thresholds are being evaluated in light of the voting limits. I believe they should be focusing on controversial questions instead of the clear-cut cases anyway, but that's already on Meta elsewhere.
    – Gnome
    Commented Jun 5, 2010 at 21:24
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    Is the on/off-topic vote count even working yet? I looked at several of the top sites, and they all show "10 on/off-topic questions needed".
    – John C
    Commented Jun 5, 2010 at 23:00
  • @John It could be that it's just not working, but I assumed the limit hadn't been reached yet.
    – C. Ross
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 1:08
  • It's greater than 16 at least. If I had to guess, it's probably 25.
    – Kyle Cronin Mod
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 4:29
  • @Kyle, thanks, I wondered. Is there any official listing of the requirements? Not sure why that information should be hidden.
    – John C
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 14:23
  • @John: I doubt it's intentional. The site is in beta and things are changing quickly.
    – Gnome
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 16:11
  • Ok, In Persian IT we have a question with 18 off-topic vote and another question with 14 on-topic vote still no change on required on-topic/off-topic numbers.
    – Hamed
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 18:19
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    In GIS we've reached 25 off-topic votes, still no change. Sorry Kyle
    – fmark
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 12:03
  • @fmark it was just a guess, but I wasn't far off - the cutoff is 30
    – Kyle Cronin Mod
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 15:49
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    can a mod tag this FAQ at least? Otherwise, put it in the area51 faq page.
    – Gordon Gustafson
    Commented Jun 13, 2010 at 23:13

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A question is considered on- or off-topic when it reaches 20 votes

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    Thanks Kyle, that's great work! You forgot the freehand circles though.
    – C. Ross
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 17:08
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    wow! If you have 60 members then you have 60*5=300 on-topic votes, so for 10 on-topic you will need 10*30=300 votes.
    – Hamed
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 17:32
  • @Hameds see my answer: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/52662/…
    – David Fullerton
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 22:22
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We bumped it way up to 30, not because we actually think that's the right number but because we want to see how many votes questions are getting and then drop it down to the right number. It's easier to lower it than to raise it without upsetting people.

Update

The final number (for now) is 20 votes.

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Math based on actual currently

  • 10 Questions
  • 30 votes for question (current actual)
  • 5 votes per follower
  • 300 votes / 5 votes
  • 60 users

That is way too many, it should be more like 15.

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  • notice that the required number of followers is also 60, so the math evens out when you have a close knitted community (and the numbers have been lowered ;) )
    – alexanderpas
    Commented Jun 16, 2010 at 16:22
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Perhaps it's a bug, if not, I think the restrictions are too high, limiting votes and upping the threshold, very difficult to reach 10 on topic and 10 off topic questions in my opinion.

No site has reached 1 in either category yet.

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    Fewer questions could really help this.
    – Gnome
    Commented Jun 6, 2010 at 16:09
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    @The Cat I agree fewer questions would be better, but now we're looking at a question with 21 votes and it doesn't count? I think the question at hand is still relevant.
    – C. Ross
    Commented Jun 7, 2010 at 11:56
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Current threshold seems to be 20 votes.

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