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Given the high bar on commitment, I submit that it would be very helpful to allow communications amongst the participants. They might coordinate drumming up more participants, or even in drumming up more rep for themselves on the trilogy.

However, the comment area on 'definition' stops taking new comments, and the commitment area has no comments. I think success would be more likely with a simple comment area to allow a bit of chatter.

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    Or have a proper meta question about it ;-)
    – Ivo Flipse
    Jun 15, 2010 at 23:16
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    Every +1 here helps those area51's I have committed to.
    – Rosinante
    Jun 15, 2010 at 23:56
  • the trouble is, this might end up as a discussion board... but maybe meta.stackexchange.com/questions/48249/… could help, too? Jun 16, 2010 at 7:26
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    The commit discussion should be separate from the define discussion. Jun 25, 2010 at 17:12
  • Currently I uncommit and recommit and put in a different comment. Jun 25, 2010 at 17:31
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    @Tobias - What is wrong with a discussion board during commitment phase?
    – Justin L.
    Jun 26, 2010 at 5:34
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    I desperately want to comment on the "Electronics and Robotics" proposal. Aug 2, 2010 at 21:34
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    @Justin L - I think the concern is that depending on the direction of the discussions, a discussion board could re-define the site... even though the defining is supposed to be completed in the "definition" phase. Aug 5, 2010 at 17:39
  • @Richard : Agreed. Nobody should be able to change the proposal once in commitment phase (otherwise you can subscribe to "robotics" and then the proposal becomes "Gardening"), however the initial proposer could decide to relinquish and close the proposal by linking to a different proposal to commit to. This would encourage coalescence of small communities toward a big one. Aug 18, 2010 at 11:13
  • In addition of this, I think it should be the initial proposer to decide when the proposal is sufficiently well defined and the discussion is over, then promote it to commit phase. As far as I understand, now it happens automatically when the thresholds are reached. Aug 18, 2010 at 11:15

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Yes please.

Area51 GIS has over 500 commitments and is hanging there inches away from beta while Home Improvement has leap frogged all the way, with only 200 commitments. 80% of the GIS people are committed to that and only that proposal, while 60% of Home Improvement will be splitting their attention among other proposals. This is frustrating.

Yes GIS will get there, and if a half dozen or so people continue to trickle in a day it won't be long either, perhaps a week probably not more than two. It's still frustrating. I want to do something to help, to build the site, not just sit here in the lobby cooling my heels. We can't even discuss the project with other people without going offsite, only there's nowhere to congregate (which is why a Stack GIS is appealing in the first place...)

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Yes plz!!

I've created An "Agile Software Development" proposal, but now I want to do some sort of merg with all the "Agile-related" ones but as this one http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/7794 is in commit phase I can't even contact the one who created it to do so!!

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  • good luck with pushing for an Agile Q&A - I really think the "Agile + Lean Q&A" has something going for it. Aug 5, 2010 at 17:46
  • Thanks.. Actually that's why I'm pushing for the broader one (Agile) rather than the sub (just Lean, Scrum, or Kanban, etc).. But I can't find the means to contact the other guys :( Aug 5, 2010 at 18:22
  • for now I added myself to the proposal committed members (I'm already into Scrum) put yet used it as a way to communicate my merge proposal by adding a comment about merging area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/… Aug 8, 2010 at 15:42
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Yes, this is very needed. At the moment, there is no way for commit-phase proposals to host a discussion on how to get more committers, or to relinquish the proposal towards a larger community. Once a proposal reaches commit phase, we are all muzzled until the proposal opens and we get the meta, something that can take months, or even forever. This is rather frustrating.

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This is more or less planned -- we're actually planning to add general discussions to all phases of the proposal.

Now completed, details in blog entry:
https://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/01/area-51-gets-organized-lets-talk/

Visit the Area 51 Discussion Zone:
https://area51.meta.stackexchange.com/

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  • is this part of the current implementation, i.e. Area51 discussion? Or are we waiting for something else? Mar 7, 2011 at 14:16
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We might commit to the other proposal & add your discussion/question etc to the comments area (if you feel like committed).. it's not really a way for discussion, but at least it can start something..

I thought chat if introduced might help.. but then realized that probably it won't be permanent (& forum like) as a discussion

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