We now have a new noise tag, code-chess, courtesy of this subjective question

The thin end of the wedge (code-golf) is well on its way to becoming a gaping wound. Now would be an excellent time to migrate these and similar 'puzzle' non-questions elsewhere. I suggest all of it be moved to https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/ so they can hate on it for a while ;-)

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    Waiting for [code-aussie-rules-football]...
    – Shog9
    Sep 14, 2010 at 19:29
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    I like how there's a highly voted comment asking why people are downvoting it if it is CW. I wasn't aware that CW meant you were not allowed to express your opinion that the question is not a good one.
    – Grace Note StaffMod
    Sep 14, 2010 at 19:35
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    -1 _ code-golf seems to clearly fall within Stack Overflow. I mean the answers are code, and the question is how to write a certain piece of code.... programming Q & A. --------- There's guidelines as to how frequently questions should be asked.... of course I don't want code-politics (spaghetti code, obv) etc etc.... Maybe a separate thread about just code-chess? ------------ Note: there's only 1 code-chess post currently. Sep 14, 2010 at 19:35
  • @Grace Note: +1, +1, +1, +1, +1... sorry, looks like only one upvote is sticking.
    – Pops
    Sep 14, 2010 at 20:10
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    @Shog9: Personally, I'm a fan of [code-darts]. Just keep making random changes to your code until it works. Sep 14, 2010 at 20:10
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    @Peter: There's a difference between code-golf and code-chess. Code golf can be objectively judged. The question as to how to do something in the shortest number of characters is actually programming-related, and answerable objectively. Code chess was to find an ingenious, not short, solution, and the only problem I have with that is choosing between "subjective and argumentative" or "not a real question". Well, that and the fact that I was outvoted. Despite downvote and vote to close, that question is still out there. Sep 14, 2010 at 20:11
  • @Peter, I don't think anyone's arguing that code golf isn't programming-related. Seems to me that more people debate whether it is a question that can be objectively answered.
    – Pops
    Sep 14, 2010 at 20:12
  • @Shog that's already been released in Australia. Me, I'm excited about [code-chess-boxing] and [code-extreme-ironing].
    – Pops
    Sep 14, 2010 at 20:14
  • I just reverted the tag edit. Somebody's obviously trying to get himself a taxonomist badge, hoping that this will turn into a long-running series.
    – Aarobot
    Sep 14, 2010 at 20:52
  • @David - My downvote was purely to protect code-golf and say that it is not a "gaping wound." I'd up vote a move to ban code-chess as subjective and argumentative. Sep 14, 2010 at 21:51
  • related: Where do code golf questions belong?
    – David Cary
    Sep 12, 2011 at 14:12

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A "gaping wound"? That question (and it's tag) has been with us since February. There's still only one of them.

I see no huge surge in "code chess". Or why "now would be an excellent time" - given it's been around for seven months.

To me, this sounds like another rehash of the old debate about code golf. Which as far as I am aware, is still accepted by the community.

  • It's not the same as code golf; code golf is actually not subjective.
    – Aarobot
    Sep 14, 2010 at 20:53
  • now would be an excellent time because, like code-golf, waiting only encourages it Sep 14, 2010 at 21:03

Note that where Code Golf belongs was discussed on Meta.Programmers.SE, and while there was no consensus as to where they belong, there was consensus that they don't belong on Programmers.SE.

Code Golf questions seem to have a home on Stack Overflow, and bringing up that they should all be closed as off-topic is beating a horse that's been dead since old times. The only way I can see that happening is if the Code Golf Area 51 proposal gets off the ground.

  • interesting - so the programmers don't want it, and the area 51 proposal has insufficient support..so what does this say about code-golf et al? ;-) Sep 14, 2010 at 21:02
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    It says that you are not a code-golf fan. Of course a sane code-golfer isn't insane enough to do this every day. Once a month/week, something like that. Please don't grind this place in a meatball of average. Jeff's "let's have a little fun once in a while" message is getting lost. This cannot possible be more annoying than the flood of crappy questions from India, properly tagged crap is much easier to ignore. Sep 14, 2010 at 22:37
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    @hans w/r/t flood of crappy questions, remember that question downvotes matter .. more than you might think. hint, hint. Sep 15, 2010 at 5:53

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